WESTERFIELD TRIAL: Week Three - Day Four

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[John Jamieson]

Haven't heard about the murder weapon, pervert in the tree story, or the confession yet. I'm waiting. There had better be a really big finish to the DA's case.

[John Jamieson]

"most probable killer"

A lot of people think that's Damon, but I think it's Barb.

[Rheo]

http://www.uniontrib.com/news/ metro/danielle/index.html#docu ments

[Rheo]

let freedom sing brought to my attention the testimony from BVD at trial regarding the gate:

20 A. I PUT A GATE IN FRONT OF DANIELLE'S ROOM AND I

21 ASKED THEM NOT TO GO IN THERE.

22 Q. WHY?

23 A. BECAUSE I DID NOT WANT IT TOUCHED.

So, the we must be her, or the I, we.....will add more about gate as we find them....thanks let freedom sing!

[sbnsd]

Thank you, Rheo! I had thought it was somewhere on FR.

[Rheo]

Answers would be nice....consistant answers!

BVD found door open at 9:00am.....first thing she saw was the bean bag chair on the bed....maybe Derrick saw door open and didn't realize Danielle wasn't there cuz of the bean bag chair and didn't think much about an open door.

DVD was questioned regarding a statement he made to police...put Layla in Derricks room when he and BVD went to bed..thinks he let her out to do her duty about 3:30...if that were the case...he would have walked by her door then....he doesn't recall saying that or if it happened.

So I put her in Derrick's room where she had a

7 bed to sleep on.

19 Q. Didn't you tell the police that at 3:30 you went 20 downstairs to let the dog out and check the door?

4 Q. Then if it's at 3:30, in order for you to get the

5 dog outdoors, you'd have to open Derrick's room; is that

6 right, to let the dog out?

7 A. Yes.

[Rheo]

The above info was DVD's statement to Detective Thrasher on or about 2/12.

[Rheo]

Now it's bedtime....goodnight and sweet dreams!

[sbnsd]

If DvD had been up at 3:30am, and he went to bed after letting the dog out, then he would've noticed if the door was open then or not, as he has to walk by her room to go to the MB. If the door was still closed, then DW/perp abducted her AFTER 3:30am, but after all the doors were locked.

If DW/perp left leaving the sliding glass door open, then when DvD went back upstairs, her door should've been wide open. right? Does the VD security alarm chirp when a door gets opened? If a door opened AFTER DvD locked the doors and went to bed, the alarm system would've blinked or chirped or something.

I'm still trying to figure out how ANYONE (other than DvD) got Danielle out of the house.

[Tiger28]

can i please be added to the ping list

[shezza]

I would say the likelihood of a print lasting very long on a handrail (in a home with three children) is on the remote side, and that an unID'd print like that would, IMO, be very significant.

Personal observation: We have 3 boys under 10, and they and their friends rarely go up or down the stairs without sliding their hands along the handrail the entire way. Not just touch it for balance, actually slide. Since this would "polish" the rail on a daily basis and thus wipe clean any prints along the top of the entire railing, I would think that the unID'd print on the VD staircase would be very fresh, and like you, very significant. This print would indicate that someone other than the family and the pizza partiers was in that house very, very recently to the forensic team's work, and evidence of a stranger in the house (or at least unidentified person) around the time of the abduction ought to be of the utmost importance (IMHO). Why the LE are passing it (and the unID on the glass sliding door) off as irrelevant is beyond me.

[shezza]

Westerfield's motorhome didn't contain any of his fingerprints, but did have one print from Danielle L. (the daughter of Westerfield's ex-girlfriend), Jennifer (a friend of Danielle L.), and a partial from Danielle Van Dam.

I didn't see blowups of the cards (were they shown?), but exactly how partial a partial was this print from Danielle VD? And is a partial considered to be as reliable an identifier as a complete print?

[DUDLEY]

Thanks!!!

[Rheo]

The partial print was the left ring and left middle finger...from about the first knuckle up.

[shezza]

Thanks. You're certainly a goldmine of info. I appreciate all the hard work you've been doing here!

[BARLF]

The upside down print on the handrail...Could someone been standing on the floor,and rested their hand on the rail?

[jacquej]

A poster on another forum is reporting this...

"that ID's hair tangled in Danielle hand belongs to DW. Haven't heard this on San Diego stations, but did hear it twice this AM on LA station KTLA.

Anybody else hear this? "

Anyone on this board hear this either. Until confirmed by a freeper, I will reserve judgement...

[DUDLEY]

Are they hearing this from the media? Or are they just speculating?

[jacquej]

It isn't clear what the source for the LA radio station report is... If it proves to be true evidence, and comes out in the trial, I will be coming down off the fence, but it could be a leak from LE, could be specualtion by someone on the VD side, or could be a carefully worded effort to drum up business for the station reporting this.

Until it is introduced into the trial as evidence, and stands up to cross-examination, it isn't going to get me to move! But I posted it as my little find of the morning...

[FresnoDA]

Websleuths has been the primary VDA site during the trial...like most of us here...(IF) the hair cluster belongs to DW...then may his next stop be San Quentin...however, there have been other "scoops" from the VDA sites which have vaporlocked...and by the way, may I ask one question? WHERE IS BARB EASTON??? HHHMMM????