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To: sneakypete
It doesn't take a great stretch to understand why the Jews of the 50's might have been just a TAD suspiscious of governments who put Jews to death without public exposure of all the evidence against them.

The left knew Hiss and the Rosenbergs were guilty as sin. They just didn't care. Enough evidence was presented to nail the Rosenbergs. Both could have avoided the death penalty had they informed on their CPUSA buddies. The govenment was amazed they did not. Everyone thought their children would mean more to them than the Communist Party and Stalin.

Dylan wrote those lyrics defending the traitors and bashing the USA in 1983. Right when Reagan was building up to break the Soviet Empire. The same year 220 US Marines were killed in a suicide attack in Lebanon. Those Marines were in the area to save Jewish lives. And Bob Dylan says the US government executed two Jews without evidence. Bet that comforted the 220 families of the US Marines who died.

Bob Dylan should be ashamed of himself. And so should those who make excuses for his politics because they like his pretty music.

174 posted on 06/20/2002 7:54:26 AM PDT by LarryLied
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To: LarryLied
Bob Dylan should be ashamed of himself. And so should those who make excuses for his politics because they

You are a loon, Mr. Lied. And fast becoming a famous loon, I think *8).

176 posted on 06/20/2002 8:20:22 AM PDT by Cachelot
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To: LarryLied
The same year 220 US Marines were killed in a suicide attack in Lebanon. Those Marines were in the area to save Jewish lives. And Bob Dylan says the US government executed two Jews without evidence. Bet that comforted the 220 families of the US Marines who died.

I doubt the families knew of the song.

Your bigotry and ignorance becomes particularly offensive when mixed with the military.

From what I recall,after months of border attacks (under an American brokered "peace treaty") Israel invaded Lebanon.

At the time Israel had a joint Syrian and PLO force surrounded in Beirut for three or four months. The US did not want to see those the Syrian and PLO forces destroyed, so a settlement was reached whereby the Syrian and PLO forces were evacuated from Beirut and an “international force”, read Marines, would take over security to assure attacks on Israel would cease.Israel withdrew. The attacks continued, now on the "international force" as well.

It was a misguided mission with faulty rules of engagement. American troops should never be peacekeepers, especially when there is no peace to keep. Syrians and Palestinians lived, American’s and, over the years, Jews died.

Hopefully “peacekeepers” are a mistake we won’t make again.


180 posted on 06/20/2002 8:54:31 AM PDT by SJackson
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To: LarryLied
The left knew Hiss and the Rosenbergs were guilty as sin. They just didn't care.

Absolutely! What does this have to do with Dylan? He hadn't even started elementary school at that time.

Dylan wrote those lyrics defending the traitors and bashing the USA in 1983.

Here is where you might take the time to notice that the year "1983" means something. It means it is not related in any way to the lefties who were working with the Rosenbergs in the early 1950's. It is also BEFORE the Verona Transcripts were made public and released, so Dylan nor anybody else even knew they existed,never mind what was in them. Or are you going to hold Dylan responsible for something he couldn't have possibly known anything about?

Right when Reagan was building up to break the Soviet Empire.

What does this have to do with Dylan? Was he supposed to have asked Reagan for permission to write the song? What about that GENUINE leftie/commie/pinko,Bruce Springsteen? What about other US recording artists? Should they all have to get the permission of the feral gooberment to write songs?

The same year 220 US Marines were killed in a suicide attack in Lebanon.

Gee,and here I didn't even know Dylan was part of that! Was he only in on the planning,or did he help build the bomb?

Those Marines were in the area to save Jewish lives.

Really? If so,somebody needs to go to remedial mapreading class,cause they were sure as hell in the wrong country! While there ARE Jews in Lebanon,there are more Arabs and Semitic Christians.

And Bob Dylan says the US government executed two Jews without evidence. Bet that comforted the 220 families of the US Marines who died.

Are you on drugs? If not,why not? How the HELL can you connect the Rosenbergs treason in the late 1940's-early 1950's with a terrorist truck bomb in the 1980's,and then manage to mix a non-political guy like Bob Dylan into the whole mix? You DO realize you are accusing Dylan of writing a song in ADVANCE that somehow "justifies" (in your mind,anyhow) the terrorist bombing in Beriut?

Bob Dylan should be ashamed of himself. And so should those who make excuses for his politics because they like his pretty music.

I'm thinking YOU should be the one to be ashamed. You are making stretches that Carville would be emarrassed to try and make. I really,really,REALLY dislike all the "you a anti-Semite!" ranting and raving that goes on here at FR. I've been caught up in that HorseHillary and banned myself by the kneejerk "Israel First" crowd here. None the less,I'm beginning to think they finally found a "winnah" when they put that tag on you.

185 posted on 06/20/2002 9:27:03 AM PDT by sneakypete
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