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To: Tancredo Fan
Placing military forces along the US border is to move in the opposite direction of globalism, free-trade and the future. America has been a beacon of hope for immigrants everywhere, and when it shuts the door, it will encourage other Western nation-states to do the same. Worse, it will cause friction (based on anti-immigrant rhetoric) in the EU, and likely affect the chances of UK joining the EU. As for NAFTA being expanded ( a Bush initiative) this will too be delayed if a military force is placed at US borders. It will mean longer lines for the 18-wheelers hauling goods to retail outlets across America. It will mean that the price of food may rise because guest workers can't enter the US farms easily. It will mean that to a degree, Americans will not be thinking global but rather local... and that's also bad for foreign-policy agendas in DC, such as Kosovo or the Middle East peace efforts.
12 posted on 06/19/2002 7:06:08 AM PDT by CecilRhodesGhost
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To: CecilRhodesGhost
I'd gladly pay 5%-10% more in food prices to keep the dirt-bags out. As for the rest of your arguments.....so we pi$$ off a few euro-weenies, who cares.
16 posted on 06/19/2002 7:14:35 AM PDT by taxed2death
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To: CecilRhodesGhost
Well, the thought in people's minds should be:

"H.W.A.Q.V.?

"How Would Al Qaida Vote?"

The other issue is what policy the millions of illegal lawbreakers who violate US National Borders, (many of them serving as potent cover for drug runners, human traffickers and potential terrorists) would like to see in place?

People, please vote when you consider these points.

17 posted on 06/19/2002 7:14:55 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo
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To: CecilRhodesGhost
America has been a beacon of hope for immigrants everywhere, and when it shuts the door, it will encourage other Western nation-states to do the same.

There you go again. Nobody is talking about "shutting the door". We're talking about controlling who gets in - about enforcing our laws.

What in the WORLD is wrong with that?

21 posted on 06/19/2002 7:16:22 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: CecilRhodesGhost
You are /sarcastic, right?

Gee, if not, then......You would never have had the courage to post that on September 12th, 2001!

100% of the troubles we have had visited upon us are from stupid ideas of 'open borders' and 'let anyone in' (remember the Middle Easterners who waltzed in here, those wonderful "immigrants" who trained right under our stupid, open-bordernoses, and then took out 3000 innocent souls in NYC and on those horrid flights?

What a jerk. Do we now have to post the photos of people jumping to their deaths at the World Trade Center again to prove the point when it comes to the common sense issue of control of our own national borders as a component of national security???

24 posted on 06/19/2002 7:21:49 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo
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To: CecilRhodesGhost
Most of what you are predicting sounds like you are making the argument for me.

The prospect of paying more for food, may be valid, although,the price of chicken and milk (two industries heavy into immigrant employment) has doubled in the last two years I could cut back drastically on both - in fact, I have on the chicken. It is just my little protest.

I haven't built a house lately, but I don't think the price of houses has decreased in the last few years and theya re heavy into that industry also.

This sort of negates the argument of inexpensive goods due to cheap labor.

Also my property taxes have doubled in the last 3 years. What could be causing that?

Why do people insist on calling these people guest workers? They are temporary workers. Those are not insulting words, just a good description of what they do. A guest is someone I invite into my home to partake of my hospitality. A worker is someone I pay to do a job.

26 posted on 06/19/2002 7:33:22 AM PDT by nanny
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To: CecilRhodesGhost
Placing military forces along the US border is to move in the opposite direction of globalism, free-trade and the future. America has been a beacon of hope for immigrants everywhere, and when it shuts the door, it will encourage other Western nation-states to do the same.

OK, so how many millions more should we take in?

30 million more? 65 million more? 125 million more? How many is enough, and once you have reached that point, how are you going to stop it?

30 posted on 06/19/2002 7:40:14 AM PDT by Joe Hadenuf
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To: CecilRhodesGhost
Immigrants can still come in. Because immigrants do not sneak across the boarder. They come though customs and hand over their passport and visa to the nice INS agent.

People who sneak across the boarder are lawbreakers and should be deported if found inside the US and stopped if found crossing the boarder. Immigrants do not like illegal aliens any more then the native born do because it gives them a bad name. Just ask my sister-in-law. She is a proud new citizen of the US of A. Immigrants want to become citizens. Illegal aliens do not.

a.cricket

45 posted on 06/19/2002 8:24:43 AM PDT by another cricket
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