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Parent's Right To Spank Lies At Heart Of Custody Case
Scripps-McClatchy ^ | June 17, 2002 | Mereva Brown

Posted on 06/18/2002 7:15:19 AM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest

SACRAMENTO, Calif. - A woman whose son was erroneously removed by Child Protective Services has filed a civil lawsuit against Sacramento County demanding social workers be barred from taking children from their parents unless they have proof the children are in imminent danger.

Repercussions from the family's case, which was the subject of a separate appeals court decision last year, have prompted the county to re-examine its definition of child abuse and have fanned the debate about a parent's right to spank.

Tricia McLinden's 12-year-old son was placed in protective custody in September 1999, and spent nearly two years living in a series of foster and group homes before a state appellate court threw out the case and ordered the boy returned home.

McLinden's civil lawsuit, filed in Sacramento Superior Court last month, alleges CPS violated her constitutional rights to be free from governmental interference and the unreasonable seizure of her child. It seeks unspecified monetary damages.

The boy was returned home in May 2001, after the state's 3rd District appellate court ruled his mother's attempts to discipline him by spanking him with a belt and confining him to his room did not constitute abuse.

At the time, social workers were asking that McLinden's parental rights be severed permanently.

"We don't sue social workers for making mistakes," said McLinden's attorney, Donnie R. Cox of Oceanside. "What this case is about is making a mistake and then continuing the process when (social workers) knew they should send the kid home."

CPS officials acknowledged that a heavy volume of new cases in 1999, coupled with a critical shortage of social workers, might have hastened the decision to remove the boy and could have resulted in a cursory investigation.

Even so, the director of the county's Department of Health and Human Services, Jim Hunt, said the agency's actions had withstood review by a juvenile court referee and later by a juvenile court judge.

He said the appellate ruling helps clarify how far parents can go in disciplining their children. Using it as a guideline, CPS will reconsider its spanking policy, said Hunt, who first became aware of the unpublished ruling last week.

Until now, Hunt said, CPS considered a permissible spanking one in which a parent struck a child's bottom with an open hand. Using a belt or a switch or producing visible injuries was considered abuse worthy of CPS intervention, though not necessarily removal.

The boy was placed in foster care after telling school officials that his mother beat him, and showing his principal a faded 1-by-3-inch purple bruise on his lower back, according to court records.

McLinden's son told the social worker that his mother often hit him with a belt and locked him in his bedroom for hours at a time. The social worker decided the boy was at imminent risk of harm and placed him in protective custody.

Though some of her son's claims are in dispute, McLinden readily acknowledged she had spanked him with a belt and locked him in his room to control his behavior. She described her son as an angry, aggressive child who hurt other children, assaulted a teacher, stole her money, forged her checks to buy junk food and forged school progress reports.

McLinden's civil suit claims social workers denied her federal right to due process by supporting their case with deliberately fabricated charges, namely that her son could not leave his room to use the bathroom and was not allowed to have friends.

Cox said that because child welfare cases are held to a lesser standard of proof than criminal cases, social workers often don't do as thorough a job investigating cases as their counterparts in law enforcement.

McLinden's suit also claims the county deliberately excluded information from her case that would have provided context for the discipline, specifically that she had sought advice from school officials and tried other methods before resorting to corporal punishment.

Her case in many ways illustrates the conflicting views in America's ongoing debate about corporal punishment. As evidenced by various court rulings in her case, the issue is far from settled at the judicial level, leaving parents and social workers without clear guidelines.

The appellate court overturned both the decisions of a juvenile court referee and a juvenile court judge, quoting state law that specifies "reasonable, age-appropriate spanking ... in the absence of serious physical injury" is not abuse.

Armed with the ruling, McLinden filed a claim against Sacramento County in October, a required step before filing a lawsuit. The claim was denied.

Now, McLinden is seeking a court injunction against CPS removals of children in similar cases. Her claim alleges county authorities routinely act "with deliberate indifference to their duties and obligations" to fully investigate child abuse claims.

County officials say that isn't true.

"The requested injunctive relief doesn't sound much different from what the law is," Hunt said. "And we follow the law."


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To: LiveLarge
The part banning military troops from being used against civilians, which did not happen at Wacco and did not force Koresh to order his followers to torch the compound.

You're not defending Reno and Clinton's action at Waco are you? That was exactly the type of government abuse that's in this story, a lot harsher but still heavy handed and unconstitutional.

121 posted on 06/18/2002 12:51:39 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: LiveLarge
A little alliteration for the leftist. No worry though, government power grows by the hour, so you can relax. Somewhere, somehow, some beauracrat is torturing some middle class housewife for leaving her kids in the car while she ran into 7-11 to get milk. But, hey.. it's for the children.
123 posted on 06/18/2002 12:56:17 PM PDT by Nonstatist
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To: valkyrieanne
"It's not about "the right to spank." It's about the "right" to spank with an object (in this case a belt) so hard that the child is injured. The law of the state in question clearly states that parents have a right to spank their children on the rear with an open hand. This means you don't get to punch your child in the face, whip them with electrical cords, hit them with sticks, etc."

I prefer a wooden dowel for a swat on the rear. THe "state" doesn't dictate what is used to spank a child. YOu clearly misunderstood what is going on and injected your own bias. Re-read this story. BTW, the "state" doesn't have the right to dictate how a parent punishes a child. Their only concern is that serious injury is not the result. A loving parent SPANKS their child and doesn't inflict permanent injury. An unloving parent uses the ineffective "reason me silly" verbal approach and then wonders why their child is out of control and ill behaved.

124 posted on 06/18/2002 12:57:37 PM PDT by nmh
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To: nmh, Moyden, Nonstatist, hobbes1, Reaganwuzthebest,
Hey, what happened to livelarge. I saw nothing offensive and was enjoying myself. Did I miss something?
125 posted on 06/18/2002 1:06:09 PM PDT by RobRoy
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To: RobRoy
I suspect he's a troll who's been here before and banned.
126 posted on 06/18/2002 1:11:01 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
I suppose it is unusual for someone to get an ID and immediately start posting like they'd been here for years...
127 posted on 06/18/2002 1:20:19 PM PDT by RobRoy
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To: RobRoy
Yes I noticed that too. He had no problem formatting HTML and replying quickly to other posters. He had some experience with this...
128 posted on 06/18/2002 1:26:43 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: apillar
In post #60 I responded to post #22 and said I'd post a link. Here it is.

link

Since you appear to have been exposed to law as it is practiced in the real world, would you be kind enough to scan it and tell me where it rates on the bull5hit meter? I'm guessing fairly high. Yet, it seems the government is using some trick that the public doesn't understand to compel us to jump through more and more bureaucratic hoops, and submit to more restrictions. Such that now we don't even feel that we can discipline our children with corporeal punishment, or if we do, had better do it in private as if we know we are doing something we can get in trouble for if seen. That not freedom to raise your child. And the guys at the link may be grasping at straws to come up with an explanation and a cure. It may be BS and it may make them look like wacked out weirdos. But I can see what it is that is driving them to it: the tightening of the government boa constrictor around them, around us all.

If there are any lawyers or even judges at freerepublic who care to comment, please do.

129 posted on 06/18/2002 4:20:43 PM PDT by Jason_b
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To: Jason_b
My advice would be for you to read the information in this link.

http://evans-legal.com/dan/tpfaq.html

It is primarly related to tax protest arguments, but it also addresses but it also applies to many of the legal "arguments" addressed in the link you posted.

The truth is I wish the information in the link would work (I would probably use it my self), but in all honesty it's probably just wishful thinking thats not going to work 99.9% of the time.
130 posted on 06/19/2002 3:34:45 AM PDT by apillar
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To: apillar
Thank you for the link and answer!

Regards

131 posted on 06/19/2002 5:54:45 AM PDT by Jason_b
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To: RobRoy
<< You don't have to be a CBS lackie to want to protect children. The problem is that some focus more on the protection of children, while others... >>

The problem is the notion that regulations can ever fit the real world. The best a beureaucratic mindset can do is aim for the middle. The problem is that the mean is a nonexistant real world number. Exactly half of the situations that arise will fall above this imaginary line, and half below, resulting in a hundred percent dissatisfaction with the new law (regulation) and a clamor for another to correct the problem.

This is nowhere more obvious than in the child protective services industry. I have seen children taken into state custody on no more than their word that they didn't speak English and that their parents dropped them off in a home and left no forwarding number, and I have seen others left and abused. Worse, I have seen some moved from home to home to home in a perpetual state of abuse, each place as bad or worse than the supposed bad place they were originally taken from - no matter how much they screen, abusers are more than glad to volunteer, and be paid, to take on a new victim/slave, and many make it through the process.
I once was appalled to find that a child was moved regularly by the dss to new foster homes, and allowed NO contact with previous friends or "family" members, in order to "protect his privacy". Very little physical abuse I can think of can compare to this state sponsored lack of roots.
In general, my experience leads me to believe that they err more often when they take some one away from his family, but I have seen some left, with "lacerations" excused away because the mother was under a lot of stress, and the father knowing that to even raise the issue of spousal or possible child abuse, or a family history of deep rooted abuse of many kinds, would only get him the label of the vindictive ex.
I would agree, if the cops aren't there, making an arrest with probable cause and due process and all those other things, then no one should be there (though I would not rule out the notion that there is an acceptable place for the forceful instruction of an errant parent (or spouse) by a concerned relative or neighbour, in which case the appropriate authourity ought not be there).
Anyhow, there's my two cents for the day.
132 posted on 09/02/2003 11:27:39 PM PDT by Apogee (anybody ever think that the 4th and 5th protect the 2nd? Those lists of ten seem to work that way.)
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To: Apogee
We agree 100%. Apparently, one of us is redundant, heh, heh.

I sometimes think things really were better when your children were your "property" and responsibility, giving you the authority that accompanies it, and none of the states business, no matter how you treated them.

'Course, as one famous man said, "The less virtuous a people, the greater their need for law." They sure have missed the mark in this case however
133 posted on 09/03/2003 7:59:15 AM PDT by RobRoy
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To: Reaganwuzthebest

If you think that is a travisty of justice, how about this:

Did you know that in some states if you are found guilty (by any means) of child abuse because you spank a child you have to register as a SEX OFFENDER even though you did NOT commit a sex crime?


134 posted on 11/04/2004 3:05:07 PM PST by justicefile
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To: justicefile

No, didn't know that about laws in some states but more important I'm suprised you found this thread, completely forgot I had posted it.


135 posted on 11/05/2004 6:38:42 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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