[whattajoke]

While I'll rise above taking your bait, I would like to point out that I find it laughable that most Christians (and other religious folk) seem to think that atheists have no ethics. (And please don't dredge up Stalin, Hitler, and Mao again). Are you telling me that you are so weak of constitution that if you woke up one day and their was suddenly irrefutable proof that god didn't exist you would suddenly go on a raping and pillaging spree? Of course not, you're better than that...so why is it that those of us (unadulterating, family loving, value having) non theists are somehow "unethical." Hell, even Klintoon goes to church every Sunday.

[Gurn]

I don't see where I said anything about the collective -- or individual -- ethics of atheists. I just think most atheists have a religious-like agenda.