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To: Lorianne
You may have misconstrued my point. I conceded: suppose the article is 100% correct. Then what? I don't mind the social criticism. Lots of things in society deserve criticism. So, fine. Maybe it IS correct. Is it not reasonable to ask, 'so what'? The ARTICLE (not necessarily the poster), from the tone itself, screams out that something should be done. Ok. Obviously I disagree. If I had to insist on one point, it's that porn is utterly trivial compared to other social ills. Just my point of view.
79 posted on 06/17/2002 9:40:27 PM PDT by HassanBenSobar
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To: HassanBenSobar
You may have misconstrued my point. I conceded: suppose the article is 100% correct. Then what? I don't mind the social criticism. Lots of things in society deserve criticism. So, fine. Maybe it IS correct. Is it not reasonable to ask, 'so what'? Ok, I missed you're "what if" post I was referring to your original post. Yes it is reasonable to ask "so what?" but not as a means to shut down legitimate discussion and criticism. I think the author made some valid points each of which would be great jumping off points into other discussions.

The problem with porn discussions is they generally devolve into criticism of intent rather than legitimate discussion, which is the point to shut down discussion. I know of no other topic which such a large group of people who don't think porn should be dicussed critically at all, on any basis. It's almost like porn is a religion and dissent is blasphemy.

The ARTICLE (not necessarily the poster), from the tone itself, screams out that something should be done.

I didn't get that from reading the article. It seemed just the opposite, that the author was deliberately trying to steer away from proscriptive solutions and instead bring up valid (to him) criticism.

Obviously criticism has inherent in it a measure of proscription. The movie critic may persuade you not to spend your money on a particular movie. Likewise with a music or book or restuarant critic. However, I don't think that can be assumed to be the intent unless explicitely stated "Don't see such and such movie or buy such and such book".

Usually criticism it is more esoteric. Also, it is sometimes meant to goad others into improving the message, which I think could be a legitimate area of criticism in porn.

If I had to insist on one point, it's that porn is utterly trivial compared to other social ills. Just my point of view.

Well, I agree it's relative. All things are relative. Even so, another legitimate area of criticism would be potential links between porn and other "social ills". At least it can be explored through discussion, assuming it it is not (again) preemptively deemed off limits to discuss such things.

139 posted on 06/17/2002 10:21:11 PM PDT by Lorianne
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