[Gelato]

Ibbish keeps trying to turn everything around but Keyes just kicks his butt. The sad part is that many people believe liars like him and buy into what he says. It is part of some sort of mentality that people should be "even-handed," which really means that for anything one side does, you have to dig up something the other side did, even if it isn't major. Sometimes, they don't even dig something up, they just say "I'm sure Israel did something like this as well." Sickening.

I like it when Keyes uses the MLK example: no matter the injustice done to you, you are not justified in using evil tactics to fight it.

[kevlinsky]

I like it when Keyes uses the MLK example: no matter the injustice done to you, you are not justified in using evil tactics to fight it.

Not only that, but I can't really think off of the top of my head any examples in which violence has succeeded in fighting injustice (in my personal opinion, however, calling what is happening an injustice is going too far. Israel is just defending itself - if the Arabs had never attacked Israel, they wouldn't be in this mess nowadays). It is only through peaceful tactics, such as those by Ghandi and MLK, through which any lasting changes have been made.

[Symix]

Ibbish was using a well-developed Soviet tactics - he substituted the word "Palestinian" with the word "Israeli" on every question and accusation. He readily agreed with Keyes on every accusation - only it was Israeli he blamed. Obviously it was an intentional and "approved" tactic - the official propoganda this show was designed to expose.

This reminded me of the old Soviet joke - American and a Russian were arguing about freedom of speech - when the American said he could stand in the square in front of the White House and yell that the president is a piece of sh**t and nothing would happen to him Russian replied that he too could stand on the Red Square in front of the Kremlin and yell that the American president was a piece of sh**t! :)