Fox News about to air report on John Doe #2 Theory

[kcvl]

Where are those copies of the 302's? Those are FBI documents so how can they now say that those statements weren't true just someone's "mistake".

[mattdono]

That is a really good way to compare the two.

The only thing that seems the slightest different is the chin. Everything else (especially the eyes) seems to be a spot-on match.

Hmmm...

[Teacup]

Re: Post 27. I always thought John Doe looked hispanic. I couldn't make the connection back then, but after BigWaveBetty posted that same picture on the Guild, I got chills. That same week, Glenn beck was talking about the likeness of John Doe and Padilla on his show. I think this is not a Coincidence. And I am Not wearing my tin hat. This is quite obvious, IMHO. Remember the first hunch everyone had? Many of us thought the OKL. bombing was terriorist realated. Always trust your first hunch, I guess.

[mattdono]

Good question. Wasn't there a suggestion that this guy was in jail at the time?

[AdA$tra]

Attention Steve Doocy! Attention Steve Doocy

Steve used to do "dialing for dollars" here in Topeka back in the early 70's as well as being one of the weather guys. I also have a newspaper clipping from prior to that with a picture of my mother working at the Kansas legislature with a channel 27 camera man in the background. His name was Steve Doocy. He was 17 years old then. I couldn't help but notice that "dialing for dollars" was left off of his Foxnews bio....hehehe.

[rebelsoldier]

McVeigh always said he had help from Osama Bin Laden's terrorist network in implementing the Oklahoma City bombing in statements he made during his many depositions.

[PJ-Comix]

Everything starts here partner.

Even the DUmmies gave credit to the FR on this one on their forum. The funny thing is that they discussed this at length over there and credited the FR for the find. One of the few times that the DUmmies were ever respectful towards the FR.

[steve50]

Let's not forget that the entire justice,FBI and all our intelligence depts signed off on it also. Might be time for a few resignations

[Nexus]

Anyone care to speculate on what this would mean if indeed true?

[aristeides]

People like John H K suggested he was probably in jail, but he was not. It turns out he was released from jail in Aug. '92 and ended his probation in Aug. '93.

[PJ-Comix]

McVeigh always said he had help from Osama Bin Laden's terrorist network in implementing the Oklahoma City bombing in statements he made during his many depositions.

Do you mind show us the SOURCE and the LINKS for this?

[mattdono]

Hmmm....

Thanks for the info. I had heard that thought/idea, but never saw a result or response.

[Ann Archy]

I'll ask again....How did McVeigh detonate the bomb so as to not blow himself up?

How did he drive two vehicles? His car without the license plates and the Ryder truck? Why did they keep him in jail just because he had no tags?

[cardinal4]

At the risk of being accused of tin foil hat wearing, I never believed those two boobs blew up the Murrah Bldg. on their own hook. Even back in 95 I questioned the quick shift from focusing on middle easterners to right wing crazies.

[PJ-Comix]

The only thing that seems the slightest different is the chin.

Remember. This is a sketch based on someone's memory. I would be very surprised if it were an EXACT likeness. In case anybody out there hasn't figured it out yet, John Doe #2 did not go to the sketch artist for a sitting. The drawing was based ENTIRELY on the memory of a witness.

[Lexington Green]

Anyone care to speculate on what this would mean if indeed true? ................. Treason

[TomGuy]

Where are those copies of the 302's?

One report here:

FBI Falsified Reports, Ignored Evidence, Won't Release Murrah Building Surveillance Tapes

"Didn't you have witnesses who said that they told the FBI that they saw an Arab-looking guy and McVeigh parting company near the Murrah building but then the FBI turned around and told these witnesses, "No, you didn't see that," and then recorded the witness interviews on the FBI 302 forms incorrectly?"

And this:

IV. THE GRAND JURY RETURNS THE INDICTMENT OF "OTHERS UNKNOWN."

"The Grand Jury found evidence that Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols conspired and agreed together with "others unknown to the Grand Jury" to use a truck bomb against the federal government, and specifically against the Alfred P. Murrah Building located at 200 Northwest 5th Street in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma, which resulted in the destruction of the building, grevious [sic] bodily injury to scores of persons, and the death of 168 persons. See Indictment at 1-2. This Indictment has never been withdrawn or modified. Thus, the Grant Jury's allegation on the eve of trial is that this crime was committed and aided by "others unknown." By refusing to provide the requested discovery material, the government is attempting to prevent the Petitioner from learning the identity of what it calls "others unknown" but which the petitioner characterizes as "the unknown others."[8]"

[mattdono]

I was just about to ask the exact same question.

I hope that you have the transcripts, otherwise, I will have to put on my tin-foil hat to discuss this suggestion further.

[McGruff]

Meanwhile PSMNBC(losers) continues it's all day marathon on Watergate 30 years later. We still don't know who deep throat was and don't care.