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Lefty Grown Up [George Will on Oakland Mayor Jerry Brown's religious/military charter school]
The NY Post ^ | June 16, 2002 | George Will

Posted on 06/16/2002 3:11:43 PM PDT by summer

Edited on 05/26/2004 5:06:50 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: summer
Just couldn't help noticing the "brown chirts and black arm-bands" sans swatika.
41 posted on 06/16/2002 10:21:11 PM PDT by let freedom sing
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To: let freedom sing
...especially with a goal like this (from the article in my post #33 above):

... the goal is to have all OMI students, many of whom entered the school reading four or five grades below grade level, reading at or near grade level by the end of the academic year.
42 posted on 06/16/2002 10:21:20 PM PDT by summer
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To: let freedom sing
chirts=shirts ;-)
43 posted on 06/16/2002 10:22:06 PM PDT by let freedom sing
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To: let freedom sing
Well, all I can say is this: kids from low income, disadvantaged homes -- without fathers and traditional families -- will form their own "families" as they enter their teens, either through gangs or by making babies at a young age. They want to belong to something, and they have nothing at home.

So, either we create and direct the kind of group they belong to, or, we ignore this need -- and wind up with all the inner city problems we have had in this country for a long time. Oh, except now, you can toss in the new problem of foreign terrorists recruiting these kind of unhappy, alienated American youth, a la Jose Padilla.

Consequently, while tan/brown may not be the best color for the uniform, and the arm-bands should go, that's something they can easily change. But turning around these kind of kids, and giving them a real future, is something not quite as easily done.
44 posted on 06/16/2002 10:26:22 PM PDT by summer
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To: summer
... the goal is to have all OMI students, many of whom entered the school reading four or five grades below grade level, reading at or near grade level by the end of the academic year.

All the better to absorb the leftist propaganda, my dear-- probably get a good dose of PP (Planned Parenthood) safe-unsafe-safe condom education, too.

45 posted on 06/16/2002 10:29:35 PM PDT by let freedom sing
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To: let freedom sing
No. Learning to read is learning to read. Period. You can pretend that learning to read is some "leftist plot" but you would be wrong on that count. Sorry.
46 posted on 06/16/2002 10:38:21 PM PDT by summer
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To: summer
You can pretend that learning to read is some "leftist plot" but you would be wrong on that count.

How about if you pretend? It's easy enough when all roads lead to Rome.

47 posted on 06/16/2002 10:49:00 PM PDT by let freedom sing
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48 posted on 06/16/2002 10:49:33 PM PDT by Mo1
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To: summer
You know Summer, I know that when Brown was gov here in California, he was called Moonbeam etc. but in spite of all of that, I always liked the guy.
Any RAT that refused to have a limo that we paid for, or a mansion to live in that we paid for, etc could not be all RAT.
He also really had the goods on Clinton during the 1992 election campaign, and was not afraid to speak out about the dishonest Hillary for which he was ridiculed of course.
49 posted on 06/16/2002 10:57:26 PM PDT by ladyinred
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To: ladyinred
and was not afraid to speak out about the dishonest Hillary for which he was ridiculed of course.

Were he only as candid, when Hilly climbed on her broomstick and flew west to fundraise for Davis and other RATs. I don't think any of them would have any trouble accepting money from a dishonest person.

50 posted on 06/16/2002 11:17:17 PM PDT by let freedom sing
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To: summer; ladyinred; hobbes1
to be honest, summer, i haven't paid much attention to Governor Moonbeam in recent years, but my friend, Hobbes, has mentioned much of what Ladyinred said, in defense of him. i think the goals and philosophy of the school is laudable, but the uniforms really made me think-- ELIAN GONZALEZ... The fact that he riles up the libs is enough reason to make me favorably disposed towards him.
51 posted on 06/17/2002 3:11:54 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: summer,xsmommy
The question isn't What are Dems saying about Dem Mayor Jerry Brown taking such actions?

The question is... Why aren't Conservatives taking great Pains to point out all the good things he has done as Mayor of Oakland.

The Simple fact of the matter is Gov. Brown, would be a welcome addition to our side....his recent governance of Oakland merits more accolades than the entire NE Republican contingent in the entire congress......

52 posted on 06/17/2002 4:33:47 AM PDT by hobbes1
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To: xsmommy;summer
Maybe someone can tell me, of the two who is MORE conservative, in governing, Gov. Brown, of Mayor Bloomberg?

Seems to me, The President made time to get his @$$ here to help Bloomberg, on more than one occasion, It's about time he found a dem to embrace on Education, and the reform thereof, that isn't Named Fat Ted Kennedy.

53 posted on 06/17/2002 4:37:18 AM PDT by hobbes1
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Ya Really gotta love this guy (The First Politicain I ever Gave Money to....)

He was also the first to expose Clinton for what he was....

54 posted on 06/17/2002 4:38:15 AM PDT by hobbes1
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To: hobbes1
Brown is a throwback to the OLD democrat party, a pragmatic liberal who is honest. He is a dinosaur in his own party, which has been taken over by thugs and thieves.

I think it would be VERY good for Simon to visit this school, and especially for Secretary Paige and President Bush to give it some attention.

Question for all: who do you think Brown would trust more...President Bush or Terry McAuliffe?

55 posted on 06/17/2002 5:31:33 AM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: ladyinred
Any RAT that refused to have a limo that we paid for, or a mansion to live in that we paid for, etc could not be all RAT. He also really had the goods on Clinton during the 1992 election campaign,

Yup.

56 posted on 06/17/2002 5:38:25 AM PDT by hobbes1
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To: Miss Marple
Bloomberg ( As IF...) should also get his @$$ out there, just having gotten control of the City school system in NYC, at HUGE cost to the taxpayer. If he wants real results, he need look no further.
57 posted on 06/17/2002 5:40:16 AM PDT by hobbes1
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To: hobbes1
Agree. Bloomberg is rather disappointing, isn't he? I am beginning to wonder how he managed to amass his fortune. LOL!
58 posted on 06/17/2002 5:51:09 AM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: let freedom sing
Re your post #47 - Again, sorry. I don't buy it. If you really want to "let freedom sing" then you support teaching kids how to read, unless you want the USA to compete with Afghanistan in terms of who has the most illiterate population. You will never convince me, or any teacher, or any homeschool parent, or any parent, that teaching a kid to read is a mistake.
59 posted on 06/17/2002 6:45:56 AM PDT by summer
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To: ladyinred
Re your post #49 - Very interesting comments. Thanks for your post, ladyinred. :)
60 posted on 06/17/2002 6:47:03 AM PDT by summer
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