Good-Bye Cruel Free Republic

6-16-02 | wasfree

[Sandy]

On the 30th day they CHARGED his as an unlawful combatant and transferred his custody and control from the DOJ to the DOD. There only remains the question as to the trial venue.

Where did you get this information from? As far as I know, Padilla has not been charged with a crime. Last I heard was this:

(Ari Fleischer): he was transferred to DOD in connection with a habeas corpus hearing...

(Question): ...Does the President believe and his advisors believe that the Constitution allows for an American citizen to be declared an enemy combatant and then held indefinitely without charge and without any access to --

(Fleischer): According to the lawyers, under the statute, this can last for the duration of the war. That's correct, Terry. That's the word from the attorneys. Correct.

Also, do you have any idea which statute Ari is referring to?

[Robert A Cook PE]

760+ posts ...

A bit "preemie" on the "thread will be deleted prediction," eh?

[AM2000]

Do you really think it is intelligent to tell the proprietor of a website what he just said, and LIE to him about it?

Perchance you missed the question mark at the end of my sentence. There is a difference between asking and telling.

[Lazamataz]

Habeus Corpus- how many times do you have to be told that?

The government has denied Habeas Corpus to Padilla.

[Texasforever]

Insufficient answer. If he is indeed innocent, his rights are being completely trampled as we speak.

He has been CHARGED, He has a lawyer. He will have a trial.

[LarryLied]

If the situation were as dire as you suggest, none of us would have heard of Jose Padilla's incarceration.

[Roscoe]

It's the quote you were defending. Short term memory loss?

"It's not Osama that denies an American citizen due process in this country."

The thousands of innocent American civilians he murdered didn't get a trial, didn't get a hearing and didn't even get a warning.

[Jim Robinson]

You gatta be kidding me.

[Jhoffa_]

That's bad..

(LOL!)

[Ms. AntiFeminazi]

but you will never hear me betray my country by comparing it to the terrorists. Ever. (MAF)

THERE IS NO COMPARING GOING ON!(sneakypete)

see my post 736 or sandmanbr's post 193.

The threat to liberty and freedom comes from Washington not Afghanistan. It's not Osama that denies an American citizen due process in this country. It's not the Taliban that allows law enforcement to break in and search your house and papers without a search warrant with no prior evidence of criminal activity. It's not Saddam that requires you to jump through hoops and do flips in order to own a firearm for self defense.

[Roscoe]

...his rights are being completely trampled as we speak.

Lemme guess - he doesn't get cable.

[carenot]

"The key to understanding the American system is to imagine that you have the power to make nearly any law you want. But your worst enemy will be the one to enforce it." ~ Rick Cook

Sorta like when you get one kid to slice the cake, but the other kid gets to pick which slice he wants.

[tpaine]

This is why I 'hang around':

"Free Republic is a place for people to discuss our common goals regarding the restoration of our constitutionally limited republican form of government. If people have other agendas for FR, I really wish they would take them elsewhere."

Thanks, Jim
226 posted on 2/7/02 4:01 PM Pacific by Jim Robinson

[mrsmith]

"The government has denied Habeas Corpus to Padilla"

Source, please.

[AM2000]

If the situation were as dire as you suggest, none of us would have heard of Jose Padilla's incarceration.

Yeap. A few nights ago, Alan Keyes was ranting about poor ol' Padilla.. and he kept talking about how Padilla's gonna just disappear down some hole and never be heard from again.. and I was thinking exactly what you just said.. if this was done Lat-Am shtyle, he would have just "disappeared," period. None of us would be talking about him.

[Texasforever]

Yes. Look at both the sedition laws and citizenship revocation statutes. He is charged as an unlawful combatant just as those held at GITMO. His trial will establish his guilt or innocence of those charges.

[sneakypete]

Disagreeing with your government is a far cry from claiming that your government is more to be feared than terrorists,

ALL governments are to be feared and treated with mistrust. Even a government run by thee and me. Our freedoms are too fragile and prescious to be casual about. This really has nothing to do with Bush as a individual president.

[ValerieUSA]

Less than $2,000 to go on the FReepathon!

We can do it!

[habs4ever]

Is Padilla an enemy combatant of the US? Or do you doubt the merits of holding him until a prima facie case can be made in a military tribunal? Why do you want to go to bat for a maggot like Padilla?Is it no more than Jesuitical exercise in free debating for you?

[spqrzilla9]

It is indicative of the low quality of critics that they have no argument but lies about President Bush's actions.