[Publius6961]

Ideally, I would like to see certain large areas of the planet set off-limits to human entry of any kind, even aerial over flights."
-Edward Abbey-Deep Ecology

Really, Edward, and what makes you think that anyone gives a rat's patootie what you would like to see?

Make the ultimate honest gesture, if you believe that crap, and euthanize yourself...

[Publius6961]

"Does all the foregoing mean that Wild Earth and The Wildlands Project advocate the end of industrialized civilization? Most assuredly. Everything civilized must go..."
-John Davis, editor of Wild Earth magazine

Right on, John.
I suppose then, to consider you rational and sane, I must assume that your "magazine" is delivered on foot and is written in manuscript on...

Wait

[zip]

Where do these idiots come from??????????????????

[Temple Owl]

I once read somewhere that if we horses instead of cars, we'd be about four feet deep in manure today. I think that is the problem with these people. They are full of manure. They should all have horses--better yet, elephants.

[MissAmericanPie]

And 30% of the South voted for Gore because of his environmental stance? People want wilderness area and a clean environment, sure, but within bounds of reason and without stripping Americans of their property rights, and industry of it's ability to provide jobs and products.

Their idea of America is everyone crammed into cities and only allowed to drive between places with a pass.

[Bump in the night]

"…If radical environmentalists were to invent a disease to bring human populations back to sanity, it would probably be something like AIDS. It [AIDS] has the potential to end industrialism, which is the main force behind the environmental crises."
Earth First! newsletter

"We in the Green movement, aspire to a cultural model in which the killing of a forest will be considered more contemptible and more criminal than the sale of 6-year-old children to Asian brothels."
Carl Amery, German Green Party

[sauropod]

Most excellent. Will use. 'Pod

[eaglebeak]

"We have got to share this planet with the other living creatures, and sharing means not merely preserving them in zoos or National Parks, but setting aside huge areas. Whole regions perhaps that will be free of human interference. Ideally, I would like to see certain large areas of the planet set off-limits to human entry of any kind, even aerial over flights." -Edward Abbey-Deep Ecology for the 21st Century: The Natural Wonder: An Ecocentric World View. New Dimensions Radio, 1998.

What is offensive about this? There's nothing offensive about this. It is about stewardship and responsibility. Teddy Roosevelt was of the same mind, for pete's sake. Have you been listening to too much talk radio?

[eaglebeak]

"Furthermore, most attempts to use sustainability as a management paradigm have been anthropocentric, biased toward commodity production, and seriously flawed from a biological standpoint." -Wild Earth magazine

And what about this one? It's not saying that we cannot harvest. It's only pointing out that the sustainability paradigm might now be tilted in a way that is not in anyone's best interest ultimately. I'm sorry, but it seems to me that you are being paranoid rather than practical. You later cite Jacques Cousteau as some kind of enemy?!! Give me a break!! He is one of the most accomplished and famous marine biologists the modern world has ever known! You are getting very paranoid. What is the website you linked--I accessed it and could not determine what it was about; farmers and ranchers in Colorado, where I live, are generally not this paranoid...

[VadeRetro]

. . . when Gray Wolf populations are continuous from New Mexico to Greenland . . .

To Greenland? Are we going to build a jogging path for wolves over the North Atlantic?

[tiki]

Did you just feel like depressing me by reminding me that these people exist? :-}

Just today we gave a ride to a friend of a friend. He was complaining that the city was going to take away the sewer water from the golf course and they'd have a hard time watering it with the water they have. I said they should just buy some water right and drill a new well. And he said "but that would be depleting resources. First, I rolled my eyes, then I explained the whole situation to him. People are stupid, they hear these people talk and want to stop everone (except themselves) from doing anything.

They wouldn't let them cut timber or graze cattle and now the west is going to burn, the wildlife will be displaced and all that wood is going to be wasted.

[Temple Owl]

One American burdens the earth much more than twenty Bangladeshis... This is a terrible thing to say. In order to stabilize world populations, we must eliminate 350,000 people per day. It is a horrible thing to say, but it's just as bad not to say it." -Jacques Cousteau, UNESCO Courier, 1991

Jacques had the right idea, wrong country. Let's clear out France and load it up with moose.