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To: BlackElk
So Catholics don't consider themselves Christian, under the authority of Christ and his teaching, but only under the authority of the Pope. I get it, carry on.
140 posted on 06/20/2002 1:58:03 PM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: MissAmericanPie
Excuuuuuse me. The Roman Catholic Church IS the Christian Church founded by Jesus Christ upon Peter. See Matthew. What Peter binds on earth is bound in heaven. What Peter looses on earth is loosed in heaven. Other churches MAY be Christian in the partial sense of adhering to Scripture according to the individual understanding of the individual believer which becomes a very non-objective guideline over two thousand years. Fortunately, Jesus Christ, anticipating the problems of the future (weeping at Gethsemani over the fact that His flock would NOT be one in the future) established the Roman Catholic Church upon Peter to provide authoritative leadership and teaching.

Either you believe that the Roman Catholic Church is the Church established by Jesus Christ (Matthew), that the Holy Eucharist of the Roman Catholic Church is literally the Body and Blood of Jesus Christ (John 6) or you can believe that Jesus Christ was incarnated, lived, suffered, died, resurrected, ascended and sent the Paraclete to be with His Church ALWAYS in order that a disobedient Augustinian monk 1485 years later could tack some theses to a cathedral and begin Christ's religion (and to do so you must also reject the Peter passage and John 6). I am going with Scripture AND Tradition because it does not seem likely on the evidence that there is any way to be "sola Scriptura" without mangling the Peter passage or denying the Real Presence. Who says otherwise should name any church not Catholic which is "sola Scriptura", accepts the founding of the Church on Peter AND believes in the Real Presence.

The authority of the pope IS the teaching of both Jesus Christ and Scripture on the authority of Jesus Christ. We are not drafting anyone. Run your own church as you see fit. Mind your own business, however.

Been offline for ten days or I would have answered sooner.

149 posted on 07/01/2002 8:57:58 AM PDT by BlackElk
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