Posted on 06/13/2002 5:26:06 PM PDT by PJ-Comix
Edited on 04/29/2004 2:00:42 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
If you are talking about Nancy Grace, she's not even a bulb, maybe the shorest candle in the box.
That's a good point and a possibility. However, it still is a strange statement to make about a stranger who is a kidnapper of a child. An act which, in most instances, does not end up with the child being safely returned.
If that was his purpose, it is a clever statement. Final analysis, we have to reserve judgement at this point in time.
Yeah, it sounds to me like the stammering, guilt ridden beginnings of a confession to be honest about it..
It sounds like he's just almost ready to say something of consequence, but not quite..
However, I do find it extremely curious that she waited to wake her parents. When you are in that child instinct mode you do not lie around weighing your options, you get hold of your parents as fast as you can and let them deal with it. My parents told me that I was screaming for them louder than they ever heard me scream, despite the fact that I was being strangled by a big man and it felt to me like I was barely getting any sound out. Even if the girl honestly believed she had to refrain from waking her parents for their or Elizabeth's protection, I just don't think she'd have the self-control to do so, if this were a straightforward case of a stranger barging in. She'd be too freaked out, she'd run to Mommy as soon as the coast was clear. Calm acquaintance molesters may try to manipulate kid's minds, but when it's a stranger doing a violent assault in the middle of the night, there's no time for conversation. At least that is what I think based on my experience. I don't know what you all will make of it.
There are a lot of things that just don't add up with this case. Supposedly the parent were told by the 9 year that someone took the older girl, yet they ran to the neighbors and had everyone searching for the girl before they called the police.
It would be interesting to hear what these neighbors had to say about what happened.
But I think most people do realize that the sister not waking the parents up is weird. Either she wasn't really afraid - like it was an assisted runaway - or the assailant was somebody well known enough to her to conduct a convincing conversation on the topic in such chaotic circumstances. Of course it's not completely impossible that it was a stranger who threatened her and she unquestioningly obeyed, but if so I would say that the very fact of a 9 year old girl being that stoic in the face of trauma would point to something not quite right in the family.
Wow! This guy is a real headcase. If he is the leader and spokesman for the family, then the rest must be really bad off. For the first time, I am willing to consider that Elizabeth might have run away. I think that I might run off if I had to put up with such loonies.
... in which it appeared that you were buying into a fictional notion that there is some Mormon principle of the eldest brother being the "leader" of a family to whom the rest must submit, being promoted by PJ-Comix in his post #1:
Somehow Tom Smart has the veto power in that family, even on life and death issues
and again referred to in his post #26, and which originated early in the FR discussion of this story, with someone claiming to "know" that in Mormon families the eldest brother is the leader and the rest of the family (including his married younger brothers' families) has to do what he says, despite the fact that there is no such Mormon belief or cultural practice whatsoever. This "fact" has been cited over and over again on these FR threads, usually in support of conspiracy theories involving this uncle, and it's getting tiresome to see it repeated in various permutations and built upon.
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