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AMERICAN BY BIRTH, MUSLIM BY CHOICE - Two female converts explain why they feel liberated by Islam
SpiceQuest ^ | Published December 2, 2001 | By Katherine Millett

Posted on 06/13/2002 2:11:16 PM PDT by vannrox

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Live and let live. But, the more that I read about Islam, the more confused I get.
1 posted on 06/13/2002 2:11:17 PM PDT by vannrox
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To: vannrox
LOL!
An Islamic high court on Monday postponed the execution by stoning of a woman convicted of having sex out of wedlock until she weans the baby born of the liaison. Amina Lawal, 30, was convicted and sentenced by an Islamic Shariah court in March after giving birth to a baby girl more than nine months after divorcing.
Islamic Court Delays Execution
2 posted on 06/13/2002 2:18:11 PM PDT by Senator Pardek
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To: vannrox
.... it's only attractive to the stoopid ones.
3 posted on 06/13/2002 2:18:20 PM PDT by SouthernFreebird
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To: Goldenstategirl
ping
4 posted on 06/13/2002 2:19:20 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: SouthernFreebird
it's only attractive to the stoopid ones.

And many stupid ones there are

5 posted on 06/13/2002 2:21:13 PM PDT by scarface367
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To: vannrox
Don't feel alone. My first look at Islam confused the hell out of me.

Same with Judaism, both unfamiliar to me.

Every religion has it's good and bad points, and I'd offer that the older the religion the more confusing. Some of the most rude, uncouth, discourteous, vulgar, foul, ugly religous arguments I've seen were Christians arguing about the King James Bible.

I guess it's like any other tool. Depends on how you use it.

6 posted on 06/13/2002 2:22:01 PM PDT by KirklandJunction
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In my opinion, women who convert to Islam want a MAN to care for them, and they also may be ashamed of their bodies. The thought of covering themselves up is welcome.
In other words, they're NOW drop outs who are hiding from themselves.

They hate the world of womans liberation that they themselves have created!
They're leaving, and making the rest of us clean up after them.
Rather than take the blame themselves, they want their husbands to call a jhad against us to hide their own shame!

7 posted on 06/13/2002 2:28:33 PM PDT by concerned about politics
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I'd offer that the older the religion the more confusing

Uh, I asume you know Islam is the "newest" of the major religions. Islam's problem is their culture never had an "Age of Enlightenment".

8 posted on 06/13/2002 2:28:50 PM PDT by arkfreepdom
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assume=asume....doh
9 posted on 06/13/2002 2:29:46 PM PDT by arkfreepdom
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To: vannrox
Yawn...
10 posted on 06/13/2002 2:30:48 PM PDT by SunStar
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Was this an immaculate conception or was there a MAN in the picture. Don't suppose they found and tried him, huh? Takes two to tango! Talk about SEXISM.
11 posted on 06/13/2002 2:35:23 PM PDT by ET(end tyranny)
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There were plenty of midwestern women, even educated ones, who became very active in the Ku Klux Klan in the 1920's. While most people thing extremists are usually men, there are plenty of women who get caught up in crank movements of the right and left as well.... so it's no surprise that a few otherwise normal-seeming American women would find the lunacy (what an appropriate word since Allah was some sort of Arabian moon god) of Mahometanism.
12 posted on 06/13/2002 2:36:29 PM PDT by CatoRenasci
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"Yet wearing hijab could not disguise her obvious intelligence or her confident personality"...

Obvious to who?... Who hunts these quacks down and is intertained by their babeling?

13 posted on 06/13/2002 2:37:02 PM PDT by flicker
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I was thinking of comparison to L.D.S., Adventists, some of the "Born Again" charismatic folks, and I think there are some relatively new "religions" in Asia.

Given that I don't have a good working definition of "religion".

14 posted on 06/13/2002 2:37:28 PM PDT by KirklandJunction
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" Many will depart from the faith and follow false doctrine." ......unpolitically correct Holy Bible.
15 posted on 06/13/2002 2:39:07 PM PDT by concerned about politics
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What's the bet these are two really ugly broads.
16 posted on 06/13/2002 2:41:12 PM PDT by Big Bunyip
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"As a Muslim woman, I have dignity and freedom. The Koran says very clearly that men and women are spiritually equal, and that they fulfill each other as partners."

Umm...yeah, as if Islam holds the patent on that...I can think of many religions that hold both sexes to be spiritual equals..

17 posted on 06/13/2002 2:41:44 PM PDT by Frances_Marion
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To: vannrox
They have risin from obscurity and are headed for oblivian.
18 posted on 06/13/2002 2:43:11 PM PDT by concerned about politics
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Catholicism seemed rigid and ritualistic in comparison.

From Why Islam Can’t Join the Modern World:

From the moment a Muslim wakes up, he has to start going through a process of rigid procedures. First and foremost, he has to wash a certain way. He even has to clean his nose in a specific manner, and he has to do repeat this procedure three times. This is essential because Islam teaches that the devil spends the night in the cavity of the nose.
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When taking a bath, Muslims are instructed to wash the lower part of the body and the armpits first. Then they are allowed to wash the rest of their bodies. But it always has to be the right side first and then the left. After this, they have to immediately empty all the water and clean the bath and refill it. Then they can clean off. (I can’t help from observing that this sounds like obsessive compulsive disorder).
Muslims are instructed that they have to use their right side for all things first. For instance, if you are putting on your sneakers, you have to put your right foot into the right sneaker first. The same with taking them off. The same goes with putting on a shirt and which arm goes where etc. When entering a house, you have to enter with the right foot first.
When entering the bathroom, however, a Muslim has to enter with the left foot first, and when coming out, with the right foot first.
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Before prayers, the body has to be washed in a precise and orderly way (right hand up to the wrist, then left hand, then right arm up to elbow, then left arm, etc). The Muslim has to wipe his head with wet hands, and it is absolutely necessary that this is done with the three fingers between the little finger and the thumb of both hands being joined together.

19 posted on 06/13/2002 2:44:34 PM PDT by Darkshadow
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The institute says there are about 350,000 to 400,000 Muslims in the Chicago area.

It's a target rich environment.

20 posted on 06/13/2002 2:46:21 PM PDT by usconservative
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