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Convicted Khobar bomb suspects are Saudis - prince
Reuters | 6/13/02

Posted on 06/12/2002 10:52:48 PM PDT by kattracks

RIYADH, June 13 (Reuters) - A Saudi official was quoted as saying on Thursday that all of the suspects convicted and sentenced by Saudi Arabia for the 1996 Khobar bombing that killed 19 U.S. servicemen were Saudi nationals.

"There are no non-Saudis among them and I do not remember exactly how many there are but the preliminary legal rulings have been issued," the official Saudi Press Agency (SPA) quoted deputy interior minister, Prince Ahmad bin Abdul-Aziz, as saying late on Wednesday.

Earlier this month, Saudi Arabia announced it had tried, convicted and sentenced some suspects in the bombing but that the main suspects were still at large.

The prince said that before being carried out, the sentences would need to be upheld by an appeals court and a supreme judiciary body before being ratified by the king.

He did not say whether anyone had been sentenced to death and gave no further details.

Saudi Arabia, which has reserved the right to lead the bombing probe, has said some suspects might be in Europe.

The United States in 1999 extradited Saudi dissident Hani al-Sayegh to the kingdom, which suspected he was linked to the bombing, in which a truck exploded outside a U.S. military barracks in Dharan. There were 372 U.S. servicemen wounded.

Washington last year indicted 13 members of an allegedly pro-Iranian group called Saudi Hizbollah and a Lebanese man over the bombing.

The United States has also accused Iran of involvement in the bombing. Iran has dismissed the accusation as "baseless". ((Gulf newsroom, +971 4 391 8301, fax +971 4 391 8335, dubai.newsroom@reuters.com))

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To: Robert357
one, you are confusing Iraq and Iran.

Two, as far as the Saudis supporting terorism, it is not the Saudi's per se' it is a Sunni muslim thing. (there are basically 2 types Sunni and Shi'i) The Sunnis are the problem. Iraq probably specifically recruits Saudi symps, Because that is where we need to be to strike Iraq. So to cause us to cast an eye on Saudi Arabia, furthers Husseins interests.

21 posted on 06/13/2002 8:11:41 AM PDT by hobbes1
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22 posted on 06/13/2002 9:42:31 AM PDT by Mo1
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To: hobbes1
... you are confusing Iraq and Iran.

Your are correct and I know better. Sorry.

23 posted on 06/13/2002 9:44:38 AM PDT by Robert357
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To: Robert357
An author of a current book on Islam/bin Laden made the point on FOX News that many years ago Osama decided the best way to destroy both of his most hated enemies was to pit them against each other. His recruitors began approaching Saudi students in England, Germany and Paris.

By using mostly Saudis and some Egyptians as his terrorists, he hoped to turn America against SA which would weaken the US economy, destabilize the arab region and deprive us of a necessary ally in the middle east.

It can't be just a coinsidence that the entire left-wing media (and lots of conservatives) has been smearing and bashing the Saudis fulltime for the past six months.

24 posted on 06/13/2002 10:27:52 AM PDT by Deb
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To: Deb
he hoped to turn America against SA

Thanks for the insight.

25 posted on 06/13/2002 10:32:10 AM PDT by Robert357
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To: Deb
An author of a current book on Islam/bin Laden...

Please help...could you give the name or the author and/or the book?

Thanks in advance...
26 posted on 06/13/2002 10:34:53 AM PDT by VOA
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To: Deb
[Osama bin Laden] hoped to turn America against SA

Well, then, the ball is in the Saudis' court to frustrate his plan by offering 110% cooperation in the effort to find and neutralize terrorists.

27 posted on 06/13/2002 10:45:57 AM PDT by steve-b
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To: VOA
I wish I could. I came in at the end of the interview with Brit Hume and that was the guy's final point. There was no cyron under his picture. If I see him again I'll ping ya.
28 posted on 06/13/2002 10:47:25 AM PDT by Deb
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To: steve-b
I can't see where they haven't.

Their agents were working with our guys to track down Padilla and the people he contacted in the mideast.

I have thought for a very long time that the Saudis were being targeted (like the Shah of Iran and Serbians were) in a propaganda campaign to turn popular opinion against them. It has now become completely impossible to find any journalist or publication in this country or Europe defending them.

29 posted on 06/13/2002 10:58:27 AM PDT by Deb
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To: Deb
I can't see where they haven't.

That's between you and your opthamologist. Not even Bill Clinton would try to define $25K payouts to homicide-bomber families as "cooperation" with the war on terrorism.

30 posted on 06/13/2002 11:00:41 AM PDT by steve-b
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To: steve-b
You're mistaking general Saudis and a couple out of thousands of princes, with the members of the ruling family. Very different.

That's what I mean. No attempt is made to separate the ruling Saudis, who are very much our allies, and anti-American Saudis in the general public.

We have Berkley, Barbara Lee, pro-Palestian "peace-niks" and Norman Mailer, they have idiots who put on telethons for suicide bombers.

The French have more anti-American sentiment in the media and population (remember the french author who wrote the current best seller saying 9/11 never happened and the Pentagon bombing was a hoax?), but they're still considered an ally.

31 posted on 06/13/2002 11:11:59 AM PDT by Deb
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To: Deb
No attempt is made to separate the ruling Saudis, who are very much our allies, and anti-American Saudis in the general public.

Do you think that the latter could possibly go around raising money for terrorists without at least implicit approval for the former?

The French have more anti-American sentiment in the media and population (remember the french author who wrote the current best seller saying 9/11 never happened and the Pentagon bombing was a hoax?), but they're still considered an ally.

France is a more or less free Western nation. Their government can't do anything about idiots publishing crackpot books. Saudi Arabia is an oligarchical dictatorship. Nobody there publishes anything that really annoys their ruling class (at least not for very long).

Also, even free Western nations can and do prohibit the raising of funds for the furtherance of known criminal conspiracies. No less should be required of the Saudis.

32 posted on 06/13/2002 11:26:01 AM PDT by steve-b
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To: steve-b
Oh, come on. You have to know what a tight-rope the ruling Saudis walk. To do anything but police for terrorists would cause a civil war and their over-throw...then who would be running SA?

The King said the telethon was held for the support of Palestian families and not for suicide bombers. Obviously, that's bullshit, but I doubt he can do anything overt to condemn it. If anything, it would be behind the scenes. But there are rich Saudis all over the world who have financed bin Laden and live for the over-throw of the royal family so they can take control. It makes sense to me that this whole relationship is very dangerous for them.

Can you imagine what would happen to the world economy if hostle Islamists were to control that region and its oil?

If you pay attention I think you'll recoginze what is going on. By using the negative aspects of SA culture, selective negative news stories and now this whole new "Bring Back My Babies!!" soap opera, the Saudis are being turned into monsters and pretty soon voices will start demanding that the administration sever ties. You watch.

33 posted on 06/13/2002 12:10:23 PM PDT by Deb
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To: Deb
By using the negative aspects of SA culture

It's not like you have to dig deep to find those.

34 posted on 06/13/2002 2:17:01 PM PDT by steve-b
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35 posted on 06/13/2002 7:02:22 PM PDT by WIMom
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To: lentulusgracchus
"Say, isn't there a Shiite prophecy about "the last Imam" ascending to heaven on a pillar of fire?"

If that's what they want we should grant their wish. But I don't think he will be ascending he will be going in the opposite direction.

36 posted on 06/13/2002 7:48:34 PM PDT by blackbart.223
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To: Deb
By using mostly Saudis and some Egyptians as his terrorists, he hoped to turn America against SA which would weaken the US economy, destabilize the arab region and deprive us of a necessary ally in the middle east.

I always thought that using Saudis and Egyptians (America's closest allies among the Arab nations) to attack New York was Osama's way of sending a big message. Notice that when he attacked and murdered the Afghan General Massoud, who was the stronger pillar (along with General Dostum, who at that point was nearly a spent force) of the anti-Taliban forces in Afghanistan, Bin Laden sent two Tunisians posing as tele-journalists asking for an on-camera interview.

Osama Bin Laden had Pakis and Africans, Chechens and even Filipinos he could have sent to New York and Washington -- but he sent his principal cadre from just those two countries.

37 posted on 06/15/2002 9:53:50 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: hobbes1
Before you answer, you need to ask yourself one question,
Who was in the Khobar Towers, and what did they do ?

Well, it was American servicemen.

The fact that he attacked American servicemen advertises Osama's beef against "infidels" being present at all in the Arabian Peninsula, which together with Israel/Palestine and the bordering Arab countries constitutes the Hijaz or "Holy Land" as the Arabs see it, and which the Wahhabi extremists want to make into a "no-go" area for people who aren't Moslems themselves. Whereas under previous Saudi princes, foreigners were allowed to be in Jeddah and the Persian Gulf cities, and Riyadh, and only Mecca (and I don't know about Medina) were the "no-go" cities.

Thus the idea of excluding "infidels" from the entire Holy Land and the Arabian Peninsula resurrects a policy last implemented by the Seljuk Turks after the Battle of Manzikert, which exclusion outraged Christians and led directly to the Crusades -- hint, hint. But Bin Laden's purpose beyond outbidding his own Saudi government for control of the shrines as part of his drive to replace the House of Saud with a Wahhabi extremist government ("Islamic republic"), is to convene a greater war with the West. So one purpose feeds the other as well as itself. Hence his consistent use, partly from convenience in the Khobar Towers case, of peninsular Arabs and Egyptians to attack Americans in Arabia, in Arabian waters, or in America.

It is conversely in our better interest to pour oil on waters, and cool sprays of water on flaming oil, the better to do all things which erode the imposture and impair the leadership mojo of people like Osama Bin Laden and the wretched hater-theorist, Ayman Zawahiri.

38 posted on 06/15/2002 10:10:46 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: lentulusgracchus
Yes, and NO. More importantly it was American Servicemen that patrol THE NO FLY ZONE in Iraq.

Not Bin Laden. Hussein....(why do you think the War Drums are getting louder with each passing day?)

39 posted on 06/17/2002 4:50:11 AM PDT by hobbes1
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To: lentulusgracchus
Yes. The murder of Massoud is an excellent example of the bin Laden technique and how smart he is about pitting groups against each other.

It looks like the press and even many conservatives have totally bought into the Saudis as Enemy ploy without ever understanding the difference between wacko elements in the general population and our true friends, the ruling family.

40 posted on 06/17/2002 1:00:53 PM PDT by Deb
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