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All of that was the best case. In real life, it's even worse than that. In real life, natural selection could not plausibly select for hoped-for functionality, which is what would be required in order to evolve flight feathers on something which could not fly apriori. In real life, all you'd ever get would some sort of a random walk around some starting point, rather than the unidircetional march towards a future requirement which evolution requires.
Argument H
And the real killer, i.e. the thing which simply kills evolutionism dead, is the following consideration: In real life, assuming you were to somehow miraculously evolve the first feature you'd need to become a flying bird, then by the time another 10,000 generations rolled around and you evolved the second such reature, the first, having been disfunctional/antifunctional all the while, would have DE-EVOLVED and either disappeared altogether or become vestigial.
Argument H (continued)

Argument H - link to talk.origins BS claiming gains of information are possible, i.e. an irrelevant argument...

Question, Sadwin: You really think you're gonna prove evolutionism to anybody other than yourself by mouthing nonsense incantations?

Note that Reep (VadeRepo) at least has the decency to try to frame a relevant (albeit idiotic) argument regarding the question of features devolving while other featuers were evolving. Reep claims that all the features necessary to become a flying bird starting from being a coelurosaur or some such would obviously (to him at least) evolve together, thus after many thousands of generations of being disfunctional, the creature would magically one day have the flight feathers, wings, light bone structure, flowthrough hearts and lungs, balance parameters etc. etc. needed to fly.

Granted that's idiotic, Sadwin, but nonetheless you could set that minimal level of relevant argument up as a goal for yourself to try to achieve within the next year or two...

Question, Sadwin: You really think you're gonna prove evolutionism to anybody other than yourself by mouthing nonsense incantations?

Argument Q. Face it, Ted. Between you and the Blues Brothers a lot of us will be yelling CRETIGO all night long. So, when are you going to update your theory in light of all the counter evidence? You've been spamming the www, verbatim, since 1995.

Question, Sadwin: You really think you're gonna prove evolutionism to anybody other than yourself by mouthing nonsense incantations?

If you go to the right side of your internet browser, there is a scroll up button. It is usually the arrow up button. Press this button until you get to the top of the page. If you have a three button mouse, you can also use the middle button to scroll up to the top of the page. There, you will find a chart of arguments, each one denoted by a letter. Underneath each of the paragraphs in your post, I put Argument A, or B, or C, etc.

Although, I really shouldn't bother trying to educate you on how to read tables, because I doubt you even read these articles. You just do information-free text dumps into every crevo-thread, regardless of what the thread is talking about.

It is amazing that you are tolerated on FR, but that says more about FR that you.