Posted on 06/12/2002 11:34:46 AM PDT by Sir Gawain
BUSH PUSHES GORE PLAN FOR ORWELLIAN GOVERNMENT
Those who voted for G. W. Bush thinking they were getting a significantly different type of government from the Clinton-Gore years need to think again. Bush's proposal to consolidate federal law enforcement and civil defense capabilities is actually a replay of an old plan first submitted by Al Gore.
A June 10 CNS news report stated, "Some members of Congress, Democrats and Republicans alike, were surprised by President Bush's proposed consolidation of federal law enforcement and civil defense capabilities under a new cabinet level Department of Homeland Security.
"But some are even more surprised to learn the plan has much in common with a nine-year-old idea hatched in the Clinton-Gore administration, which proposed a significant expansion of domestic police powers."
The report further stated, "Numerous components of President Bush's proposal, which were sketched out in a televised address last Thursday, are strikingly similar to a plan proposed by former Vice President Al Gore as part of the Clinton-Gore 'Partnership for Reinventing Government' in 1993."
The Bush-Gore plan to "reinvent government" is, in fact, nothing new. It is as old as tyranny itself - and that is exactly what the Bush-Gore plan is: a modern attempt to reinstall tyrannical government.
In the British newspaper, The Register, Thomas Greene states, "The real purpose (of Bush's proposal), clearly, is data acquisition, mining and manipulation on a gargantuan scale." He is right. Bush's reintroduction of the Clinton-Gore plan has shades of Hitler's SS corps. It is the beginning of a national police force in the United States.
Of course, when Al Gore submitted this plan back in 1993, vociferous opposition from the entire conservative community resisted it. As a result, the plan was summarily defeated.
However, things are different now. A Republican occupies the White House. Furthermore, the terrorist attacks in New York and Washington have created a "security-at-all-costs" mentality among the American people. Because of this, Bush will succeed in implementing the Clinton-Gore plan of freedom confiscation with little or no opposition.
What really takes the cake is the manner in which President Bush continues to coddle illegal aliens. He refuses to deport those whom U.S. law requires to be deported, he continues to promote the concept of granting amnesty to millions of illegal aliens, he refuses to take serious measures to keep likely terrorists out of our country, yet, he seems determined to thoroughly dismantle constitutional protection of our liberties.
What conservatives would have never surrendered to Al Gore, they seem happy to acquiesce to George Bush. However, the Clinton- Gore plan to eviscerate America's liberties smells as rotten (even worse) when George Bush regurgitates it! So, what has happened to conservatives' smellers?
The fact that you lie destroys any credibility you may have.
You can't, you need to marginalize my opinion because it flies in the face of your lies and bigotry.
"More smoke and distractions."
Translation: "Crap...how do I answer that? I know, I'll cover my ears and shut my eyes."
"Now go ahead, start the dance of distraction and diversion, with your accusations and name calling and rants of hate."
Wrong guy Joe, I don't marginalize people by calling them vermin, and parasites, I recognize the psychology of hatred too well, as did the German National Socialist Party in Europe. They used the same psychology to justify their deeds.
I don't advocate shooting unarmed men, women and children like it's done so often on these threads. I don't advocate land mines across the borders.
Look in a mirror if you're looking for that individual.
I advocate converting immigrants into conservatives.
Your solution would be to make Euro-Americans out of Hispanics?
*snicker*
Well it only took 15 posts for a fellow Bush-trasher to toss his name into the hat! I am disappointed!
Ha ha ha aahh ha ah. Fan the smoke louie..
Are you speaking to me? I never said this. Why would you post this to me? Oh, I know, its just more smoke and distraction, as you wave your arms around screaming hate, hate hate!
WRONG. How dare you.
God said in the Psalms how he longed to give them the Land, but because of their unbelief and testing Him, that he did not.
Aren't any of you people going to get anything right today?
And using that as an example to justify your stance? Dragging God's name into your picture?
I've seen it all, now.
Wow. Memories...
Toss in the term "excusemeister" and you would have verbatim what this Conservative gets called by people at DU.
hmmmm....
Here let me help you and your open border, pro Mexican, illegal alien agenda.
There are many types of terrorism, for example when you have millions upon millions of illegal aliens invading our nation, defecating on our sovereignty, spitting on our laws, filling our jails, causing standing room only in many big city emergency rooms with non paying illegal aliens, crowding our already over crowded classrooms, taking jobs, driving down the wages, while driving up the taxes, killing our local police officers in cold blood, voting in our elections, and straining our limited energy resources, while sending billions annually back into the Mexican economy.
So you see Louie, there are many types of terrorism and this is right up there with other countries and terrorist that all want to destroy this great country, as this invasion of millions has completely changed many of our once great cities, that now resemble third world slums.
A security threat? Well Jezzz Louise, what do you think? A country that encourages its own people to invade another country illegally, that supports this open border madness, can only compound the security problem of other terrorist that may desire to enter through those bleeding, chaotic borders. While all this is being supported by Mexico's own corrupt, criminal dictator. It's kind of like having neighbors next door, where anything goes, as they are jumping over your fences, through your windows, consuming everything in sight, as they are followed over the fence by religious fanatics, and God knows what else.
I don't need help from liars. And that's what you are, because that statement is a lie
No, Louie, it's all true. Every single word. Every immigration thread you show up to, you are either supporting it, attempting to minimize this titanic invasion of millions, or attacking people on the thread with nasty accusations of nazis, racist, bigots, among other things. This should be very clear to anyone on this forum.
Your entire post is fuill of lies, right down to the bit about the "Mexican dictator", a democratically elected president.
LOL! Wrong again Louie. Fox is nothing but a corrupt criminal dictator, that encourages millions of his people to crap on our sovereignty and break our laws and invade our nation, and then this AH attempts to make demands of our country.
Your problem with me is that I expose you for what you are, and the fact that I refuse to embrace your demonization of an entire race of people drives you insane. And it drives you insane because you can read my last name, and you hate that.
Wrong again Louie. Your last name has nothing to do with it. Nice distraction and diversion though. You expose yourself over and over. I have no problem with you, as you identified yourself long ago as a open border sympathizer. This is about as obvious as a jew, waving a Israel flag in downtown Baghdad. I have ran into many, just like yourself. They are very common here in the southwest.
Five hundred years later, we invaders of this continent bla bla
More smoke and distractions.
There's no way around that, it's simply the truth.
There sure the hell isn't louie, and my above post is the glaring truth.
There are a million ways to address the immigration issue without using the hate rhetoric that you use, and your problem is that as far as you are concerned, anyone who doesn't embrace your virulence, is pro-illegals. That's your big lie.
It's all true louie, and you know it. And no, there are not a million ways to dance around and debate this issue. But go ahead and throw you little "hate" words around, as it's very clear that its just more smoke and distractions
Now go ahead, start the dance of distraction and diversion, with your accusations and name calling and rants of hate. It's very revealing, as you do it as a matter of routine. I got your number louie. There are some here and elsewhere that can see right through you.
And here is louis response:
Wrong guy Joe, I don't marginalize people by calling them vermin, and parasites, I recognize the psychology of hatred too well, as did the German National Socialist Party in Europe. They used the same psychology to justify their deeds.
I don't advocate shooting unarmed men, women and children like it's done so often on these threads. I don't advocate land mines across the borders.
As all can see, he never quoted me, as I never stated these things. And you talk about lies and misrepresentation? Keep throwing up the smoke louie.
I am purposely reposting everything so as anyone that wants to bother, can see what I wrote in comparison to what louie says.
And you speak of lies??????
When it comes to hate rhetoric, you are the man!
As for the mining of the borders, etc.
I never implied that you are the only bigot in FR.
Thank You!!!!!
redrock
I know that you Busbots think that whatever Bush does is just a deceptive ploy to confuse the democrats but at some time you are going to have to wake up and smell the stench.
Bush is on his way to becoming Americas' first tyrant. He is stepping all over the Constitution and he has expanded government far more than any past democrat president, including FDR and slick willie. I really do feel sorry for people like you. Too fearful to see the truth and too weak to face reality.
We can't ignore the fact that Clinton rushed through one million immigrants and Gore rushed through, what was it, I can't remember, fifty thousand, five hundred thousand, right before their elections and had voter registration booths waiting for them as soon as their hand came down from taking the oath whose meaning was just a fomality to them that they didn't understand.
Believe me, Clinton and Gore did not do that because these people were going to vote Republican. They use greed, self interest and ignorance against them, like they really care about them while stealing their freedom and ours.
These people arrive eager for a good life, the largest majority of them are hard working, and law abiding, good neighbors, some arrive thinking they have hit the crazy American gravy train, it's how they vote that upsets me. I don't see how we can explain the urgency and intricacy of our situation and expect a guy that just alit off a donkey the day before, who may or may not be able to read, to grasp it.
I don't advocate shooting unarmed men, women and children like it's done so often on these threads. I don't advocate land mines across the borders.
As all can see, he never quoted me, as I never stated these things. And you talk about lies and misrepresentation? Keep throwing up the smoke louie.
I am purposely reposting everything so as anyone that wants to bother, can see what I wrote in comparison to what louie says.
And you speak of lies??????
I notice that you didn't deny the fact that you marginalize people.
When it comes to hate rhetoric, you are the man!
Why don't you ever quote me. Is this because you are a liar louie? Show me the racist hate post louie. LOL! Lets see it louie? Come on louie, lets see all my racist bigot nazi post louie.
As for the mining of the borders, etc.
Why don't you quote me louie? I never staed this. Another lie. Your credibility is gone, as you never had any.
I never implied that you are the only bigot in FR.
Show me the bigoted quote "race card louie"
And you are just another lying race baiter.
My only question to you is, why to you continue to make a fool of yourself? You never have proof of anything to back up your nasty loud mouth accusations. Lets see all these hateful racist post louie.
Or you can just continue to shoot off your mouth, while waving your arms and crying racism.
LOL! You have been had, "race card louie"......he he he.
If I have misspoken I apologize for my error, but when you chastize you might want to add the chapter, verse, psalm, your refering to.
More liberal crap being swallowed and spewed onto the pages of FR.
So these "know-all" conservatives on FR are saying this about President Bush?
Well if you folks are so "right", then how come you are wrong?
This is nothing more than people being decieved by the liberal media. The media built Bill Clinton, and they can't build Bush so they will tear him down in order to set up either Hillary or Gore in 2004. And look who is helping them on FR.
Congratulations.
Come on Joe, deny it. Tell me that you have never said those things.
Find some cojones and make a stand.
While you're at it Joe, you keep accusing me of being an open borders advocate.
Prove it boy. Deny that you have ever used those words to marginalize Mexican illegals, deny that those words are the very same words used by the Nazi party to demonize the Jews, and while you're at it, prove that I have advocated an open borders policy.
Come on, I'm daring you.
There is nothing delusional or smoke induced about this obvious fact. Just as there is nothing but delusions regurgitated from the PP's (Pretend Patriots) gaping pieholes.
Have no fear, all you Bushwhackers can vote for Al again next time or Hill or any of a multitude of Pretend Politicians without a clue.
No, I never said that. Your making the routine nasty accusation. Lets see the proof big mouth. Put up or shut up race baiter. As usual, you can't, you never have, and you never will, you race baiting liar.
But I will say here and now, the criminals that enter our country by the millions illegally, that defecate on our sovereignty, kill our police and vote in our election are much worse than what you stated. But again, those are your words, not mine, liar.
You see louie, We are suppose to be a nation of laws. Keep repeating this louie. A nation of laws.
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