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Bush Pushes Gore Plan For Orwellian Government
NewsWithViews.com ^ | Chuck Baldwin

Posted on 06/12/2002 11:34:46 AM PDT by Sir Gawain

BUSH PUSHES GORE PLAN FOR ORWELLIAN GOVERNMENT

 
By Chuck Baldwin
June 11, 2002
NewsWithViews.com

Those who voted for G. W. Bush thinking they were getting a significantly different type of government from the Clinton-Gore years need to think again. Bush's proposal to consolidate federal law enforcement and civil defense capabilities is actually a replay of an old plan first submitted by Al Gore.

A June 10 CNS news report stated, "Some members of Congress, Democrats and Republicans alike, were surprised by President Bush's proposed consolidation of federal law enforcement and civil defense capabilities under a new cabinet level Department of Homeland Security.

"But some are even more surprised to learn the plan has much in common with a nine-year-old idea hatched in the Clinton-Gore administration, which proposed a significant expansion of domestic police powers."

The report further stated, "Numerous components of President Bush's proposal, which were sketched out in a televised address last Thursday, are strikingly similar to a plan proposed by former Vice President Al Gore as part of the Clinton-Gore 'Partnership for Reinventing Government' in 1993."

The Bush-Gore plan to "reinvent government" is, in fact, nothing new. It is as old as tyranny itself - and that is exactly what the Bush-Gore plan is: a modern attempt to reinstall tyrannical government.

In the British newspaper, The Register, Thomas Greene states, "The real purpose (of Bush's proposal), clearly, is data acquisition, mining and manipulation on a gargantuan scale." He is right. Bush's reintroduction of the Clinton-Gore plan has shades of Hitler's SS corps. It is the beginning of a national police force in the United States.

Of course, when Al Gore submitted this plan back in 1993, vociferous opposition from the entire conservative community resisted it. As a result, the plan was summarily defeated.

However, things are different now. A Republican occupies the White House. Furthermore, the terrorist attacks in New York and Washington have created a "security-at-all-costs" mentality among the American people. Because of this, Bush will succeed in implementing the Clinton-Gore plan of freedom confiscation with little or no opposition.

What really takes the cake is the manner in which President Bush continues to coddle illegal aliens. He refuses to deport those whom U.S. law requires to be deported, he continues to promote the concept of granting amnesty to millions of illegal aliens, he refuses to take serious measures to keep likely terrorists out of our country, yet, he seems determined to thoroughly dismantle constitutional protection of our liberties.

What conservatives would have never surrendered to Al Gore, they seem happy to acquiesce to George Bush. However, the Clinton- Gore plan to eviscerate America's liberties smells as rotten (even worse) when George Bush regurgitates it! So, what has happened to conservatives' smellers?

 



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To: That Subliminal Kid
You're Libertarian, right?

We know, you Bushbots just cannot stomach the thought of freedom, and require someone in power to order you around and tell you what to think so you don't get scared.

There is an easy way to tell whether Bush is serious or not about improving homeland security. Heads would roll. Norman Mineta, George Tenet, Tom Ridge, and the faceless, nameless goons and buffoons in the FBI responsible for Waco, Ruby Ridge, Hanson spy scandal, 9/11, etc. would be out pounding the streets for a new career if Bush really meant business. Of course, no heads have rolled, other than those hapless souls in New York on 9/11, courtesy of a bunch of grabass brown-nosers responsible for running the great oxymoron of our time...U.S. Intelligence services.

This is a huge and dangerous power grab which consolidates federalized police forces and will make them more efficient. Imagine what President Hillary Clinton can do with such an efficient, streamlined federal police force.

Just curious, but do you Bushbots ever criticize anything your high priest of the compassionate conservatives does?

101 posted on 06/13/2002 9:17:29 PM PDT by Jesse
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To: Luis Gonzalez; nopardons
Tell me exactly how the restructuring of already existing government agencies restricted your rights

Administrative decentralization tends toward tyrannical government. Read up on it here and here.

102 posted on 06/13/2002 9:19:32 PM PDT by Pistias
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To: Sir Gawain
The " GORE PLAN " was never sunmitted to anyone. Gore's plan for the airline industry was a god one; however , was never implimented because it would ave wrecked some little fifedoms ; see Dashole's wife.

There are numerous ( GIGANTIC ) differences between GOPers / Dems ... Bush / Clinton. Those who refuse to see them, need corrective eye surgery and a brain transplant.

103 posted on 06/13/2002 9:19:40 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: weikel
Only his own. : - )
104 posted on 06/13/2002 9:20:51 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Pistias
Fix: should be administrative centralization
105 posted on 06/13/2002 9:22:14 PM PDT by Pistias
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To: Jesse
Just curious, but do you Bushbots ever criticize anything your high priest of the compassionate conservatives does?

No..... There is no need to when there are so many idiots running around who think they could solve the country's problems overnight with the wave of a hand

106 posted on 06/13/2002 9:26:01 PM PDT by woofie
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To: MissAmericanPie
How else does one explain the sudden blindness of poll watching politicians when it happens to be an immigration opinion poll?

I get RNC fund raising mail almost every week. Many include surveys on major issues. What I noticed in the most recent letter was that the enclosed survey had NO questions about immigration. I suspect they didn't like the results of previous surveys on the immigration question and are now in full denial mode.

107 posted on 06/13/2002 9:26:24 PM PDT by WRhine
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To: Luis Gonzalez
I didn't say that this new agency was restricting my rights. I made no unsubstantiated claims. I said that the government has not closed the borders, the government has not restricted immigration, the government has not rounded up and deported illegal aliens and other undesireables and has not provided the american people with a civil defense plan. What is not clear to you?
108 posted on 06/13/2002 9:26:34 PM PDT by gunshy
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To: lakey
Where've you been ?

Presidnet Bush has rescinded some of Clintons EOs; others can NOT legally just be written out / rescined / taken back . Please do your homework / search first and do , by all means , learn what can and can NOT be done by a sitting president.

109 posted on 06/13/2002 9:28:44 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: gunshy
"Close the borders."

Details, details.

I could offer up a solution to all our problems too!

Here it is: "Kill all the bad guys".

Now...why haven't we done that?

"Close the borders"

I guess you would want the miles of borders with Mexico mined, then we can all sit back and watch the endless films of women and children blown to hell on CNN.

And who the hell needs all the billions of dollars in tourism anyway? I'm sure the owners and employees of all the businesses that will fail will understand.

Don't forget to post military personnel along the Mexican and Canadian borders, we also need them watching every mile of coastline, every airport, every harbour, all train stations, bus stations...looking a bit like the old USSR, aren't we?

Oh...figure out how to get around that annoying Posse Comitatus Act while you're at it.

"Cut back on immigration"

To what?

"Round up and deport all illegals and undesireables"

We'll need more troops, to search every street in America. We could set up neighborhood watch committees to report suspicious-looking people to the Feds.

We'll also need something that would identify those of us who are entitled to be here, maybe an ID card of some sort?

I'm with you brother! Let's preserve our civil liberties!

You may not like my ideas, perhaps you could offer up some of your own. At least something other than "get people that don't belong here out of here"

"Develop a civilian defense program similar to what we had during WWII"

Did we close the borders in WWII?

No.

Pretty amazing considering the fact that there was nothing but water separating Los Angeles from the Imperial Japanese Navy.

Franklin was actually talking about you.

110 posted on 06/13/2002 9:30:01 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez
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To: WRhine
We got the RNC phone call...a donation to them is not happin at this home.
111 posted on 06/13/2002 9:30:07 PM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: gunshy
This government hasn't done any of these things, it has only worked to impose restriction on the rights of the citizens of this country. If you have any evidence to the contrary, please let us all know about it. I didn't think so.

88 posted on 6/14/02 12:02 AM Eastern by gunshy

I didn't say that this new agency was restricting my rights.

108 posted on 6/14/02 12:26 AM Eastern by gunshy

112 posted on 06/13/2002 9:32:37 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez
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To: Texasforever
You forgot to quote the "I".

It's not just this particular thing, this rearrangement of the Titanic deck chairs, it's the whole thing; society and government in general that gets me down. Society has become worse since 9/11 and government continues to get bigger and bigger, more intrusive, more expensive, heavey-laden with secrets of all manner; You gotta step out of the forest a bit so you can see all the trees.

Don't worry though; There are so few people who believe in constitutional restoration anymore, we're no threat to you guys. Too bad that you & the city dwellers can't see your way to release a little space where we could live without some government snoop wanting to check our papers, confiscate our property and means, displacing us, disarming us, and propagandizing our children with their godless humanism.

So, if you resent my opinion of the government, then tell the government to leave us alone; Leave us alone to live out our lives as G-d intended, not as the government dictates.

113 posted on 06/13/2002 9:34:37 PM PDT by Washington_minuteman
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To: daiuy
Luis doesn't need the help ; hwever , if you had 1/100 th of the brain power , that he does, you just might behion to uderstand reality better.
114 posted on 06/13/2002 9:35:17 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: MissAmericanPie
We got the RNC phone call...a donation to them is not happin at this home.

Same here and I was happy to tell them why.

115 posted on 06/13/2002 9:36:15 PM PDT by WRhine
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To: Pistias
Main Entry: de.cen.tral.iza.tion
Pronunciation: (")dE-"sen-tr&-l&-'zA-sh&n
Function: noun
Date: 1846
1 : the dispersion or distribution of functions and powers; specifically : the delegation of power from a central authority to regional and local authorities
2 : the redistribution of population and industry from urban centers to outlying areas
- de.cen.tral.ize /(")dE-'sen-tr&-"lIz/ verb
116 posted on 06/13/2002 9:36:43 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez
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To: gunshy
All Bush has done is to create the worlds largest police force to spy on americans. The new gestapo. Sleep well my friend, at least until they haul you away.

Exactly what police agency was created?

117 posted on 06/13/2002 9:37:11 PM PDT by Texasforever
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To: Nick Danger
B-R-A-V-O !

Another sterling , rational, logical post; Nick. : - )

118 posted on 06/13/2002 9:37:23 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Washington_minuteman
So, if you resent my opinion of the government, then tell the government to leave us alone; Leave us alone to live out our lives as G-d intended, not as the government dictates.

How do you want to live your life that is now prohibited?

119 posted on 06/13/2002 9:39:04 PM PDT by Texasforever
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To: Luis Gonzalez
see 105
120 posted on 06/13/2002 9:41:28 PM PDT by Pistias
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