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What about the rights of the people who died on 9/11? Who speaks for them and their rights?

What a meaningless and insulting irrelevancy! I am sick and tired of those who hide behind the tragic murder of those poor civilians on 9/11 as some kind of justification for destroying the Constitution and abandoning our freedoms to government.

Your shameless posturing as someone whose attack on our country, our freedoms, and our Contsitusion is justified or even required due to the sympathy which everyone feels for those poor murdered people is revolting.

If someone had called me at 8:00 a.m. on 9/11 and said "3000 innocent people are about to be brutally murdered unless you agree to abandon the Constitution and the liberty which it was intended to protect" and it truly was my decision to make, I would say what anyone who holds these things -- country, liberty, Constitution in high or even moderate regard -- "Nuts!"

WE WILL NOT TRADE OUR FREEDOMS WHICH THOUSANDS OR MAYBE MILLIONS HAVE FOUGHT AND DIED FOR to save or avenge the lives of 3000 or even 300,000,000. We will fight but we will never surrender!

And if they then said "Well, don't look now, Buddy, but you and your family are among those 3000," I would say "Nuts, and double Nuts!!!" I could not love my family half as much did I not love our country, our liberty, and our Consdtitution just a little bit more.

When you make such sickening statements, I hear you trash talking every man, including those in my family, and woman who ever laid down his life to save our country, liberty, and Constitution. By what right do you presume to denigrate the sacrifices of those noble men and women? Were their lives so meaningless that you should dismiss them so? Are the 3000 who died on 9/11 more worthy in your eyes?

Iwo, you're on a roll.

Here's one I've used: "I'm sorry, so sorry, about the deaths in WTC. But a helluva' lot more than three thousand gave their lives and worse to establish and defend the Constitution". "I'm not about to desecrate them because a bunch of big government pukes want to trash our hard-won freedoms".

Cheers!