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Van Dam friend describes Westerfield as 'creepy'
North County Times ^ | 6-11-02 | Kimberly Epler

Posted on 06/11/2002 8:27:12 AM PDT by Southflanknorthpawsis

Van Dam friend describes Westerfield as 'creepy' KIMBERLY EPLER Staff Writer SAN DIEGO ---- David Westerfield, the man accused of killing Danielle van Dam, was described Monday as "creepy" by a friend of the girl's parents who saw him at a bar hours before the 7-year-old disappeared.

"He was very quiet and weird," Denise Kemal, one of two women who went out drinking with Brenda van Dam, testified of Westerfield, the self-employed engineer standing trial for the crime.

The 28-year-old flight attendant said Brenda van Dam introduced her to Westerfield on Feb. 1 when they arrived at a Poway bar for a girl's night out.

Kemal said she thought it was "creepy" the way Westerfield stood watching her, the other two women and some of his friends play pool without saying anything. Judge William Mudd ordered the remarks stricken from the record after Westerfield's attorney, Steven Feldman, objected to the characterization.

Kemal also testified she saw Westerfield outside of his house the next afternoon when she went to the nearby van Dam home to speak with police about Danielle's disappearance.

Kemal was one of five witnesses on Day Four of Westerfield's trial on charges he kidnapped Danielle from her bedroom the first weekend of February and murdered her. Westerfield lived two houses down from the Sabre Springs second-grader.

Westerfield, a twice-divorced father of two, faces the death penalty if convicted. He also is charged with a misdemeanor count of child pornography. Prosecutor Jeff Dusek said that he expects to wrap up his side of the case by the end of June.

Danielle's parents, Brenda and Damon van Dam, did not attend Monday's proceedings. Judge Mudd told the couple last week that they would be notified when they could sit in on the trial. Each spent several hours on the witness stand last week, answering questions about their drug use, giving intimate details about their marriage, and describing the events leading up to their daughter's disappearance. The couple also has two sons.

Other witnesses on the stand Monday were Rich Brady, a friend of the van Dams; Keith Stone, Brady's friend and ex-brother-in-law; Garry Harvey, a friend of Westerfield's who met him at Dad's Cafe and Steakhouse on Feb. 1; and Yvette Wetli, Garry's friend, who also was at Dad's.

Most of the witnesses gave the same basic details about the events at Dad's the night Danielle was last seen alive. There were some variations. When questioned by attorneys, some of the witnesses denied making statements contained in police reports or conversations assigned to them by previous witnesses.

Kemal, a petite brunette dressed in a purple sweater and black pants, spent much of her testimony talking about the night Danielle disappeared. She testified she smoked marijuana in the van Dams' garage with Brenda van Dam and another friend, Barbara Easton, before they went out.

Kemal also said she got a phone call while in the garage and went out the side door to try and get better reception. When she came back in, Kemal said she closed the door, but didn't lock it. She testified the door was wide open at about 2 a.m. when she and Brenda van Dam went to check it after finding a warning light blinking on the home alarm system.

Kemal said she found out about Danielle's disappearance on Saturday, Feb. 2, when Damon van Dam made a brief phone call to say police wanted to talk to her about the side door.

"He told me quickly that they couldn't find her," Kemal said. "That she was missing."

When asked by Feldman, Kemal insisted she never had a conversation with Brenda or Damon van Dam about withholding from police their previous sexual relationship. Kemal testified about having a sexual encounter with Damon van Dam nearly three years ago while Brenda van Dam was with Kemal's then-husband.

The van Dams each admitted to having a sexual relationship with the two women Brenda went out with the night Danielle vanished and their male partners. Westerfield's defense team has attacked the credibility of Danielle's parents, questioning their integrity and the company they kept.

The defense attorneys have implied that the van Dams' lifestyle put their children at risk. The prosecution, meanwhile, has argued Westerfield stole Danielle from her home to satisfy his sexual fantasies for young girls.

Kemal testified the couples "swapped" their spouses after a Halloween party. Kemal testified the van Dam children were staying somewhere else that night.

She said the Halloween gatherings were not "risque," but simply costume parties complete with prizes for first, second and third place. Kemal said she briefly talked to Westerfield the morning Danielle was discovered missing after seeing him on the street.

"He said, 'I can't believe what happened,'" Kemal said, adding Westerfield told her he left by 9 p.m.

Also on the stand were Brady ---- a van Dam family friend ---- who admitted he supplied the marijuana the three women smoked that night. He said he and Stone ran into Brenda van Dam and her friends at the bar. Brady and Stone each testified they went back to the van Dam house to eat pizza about 2 a.m.

When asked by Feldman, they each said they didn't remember Brenda van Dam or Kemal talking about a side garage door being opened after they arrived at the van Dam house. Stone said Damon van Dam looked "surprised" to see him and Brady at his kitchen table when he came downstairs.

Under questioning from the prosecutor, Dusek, Stone and Brady said they did not take Danielle out of the house. Kemal also said that neither she nor Barbara took Danielle.

Later in the afternoon, Westerfield's friend, Harvey, took the stand. He said police searched his residence twice after Danielle disappeared, once with police dogs and a helicopter. A Fallbrook resident and a truck driver, Harvey said he has known Westerfield for about four years after meeting him at another Poway bar.

Harvey didn't look at Westerfield during his testimony. He said he went to a barbecue at Westerfield's house about three weeks before Danielle disappeared and he was meeting with Westerfield at the bar that night because he was helping Westerfield work out some business deals with his roommate.

He said Westerfield introduced him to Brenda van Dam and her two friends. He said he remembered the way Denise had been dancing the previous weekend.

Harvey said he didn't stay with Westerfield the whole evening . The last time he saw Westerfield was about 11:30 or 12:30 when he went to meet Wetli. When Harvey and Wetli returned to Dad's around 1 a.m., Westerfield was no longer in the bar, they each testified.

Wetli testified she had an "uncomfortable" interaction with Kemal and Brenda van Dam's other female friend, Barbara, that night. She said Barbara was sexually aggressive toward her.

Testimony in the trial continues today.


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To: AppyPappy
We're supposed to believe DVD slept with his wife's friends just a couple of times a few years ago and that was the end of it? I don't believe it for a second. They were probably 'swinging' in the garage the night Danielle was taken from her room and murdered.
181 posted on 06/11/2002 10:10:37 PM PDT by dougherty
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To: sbnsd
Search for "Easton" or keyword WESTERFIELD
182 posted on 06/11/2002 10:10:49 PM PDT by John Jamieson
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To: Southflanknorthpawsis
I'm still trying to figure out how one brings it up to their spouse that they would like to try this...

Honey..really think you ought to try out my friend and I'll do her hubby at the same time...it will really add to our marriage and that will be good for the children.....it will give us a really good reason to drink a lot and since we have the lock on the garage set up to keep the kids out while we smoke pot...we could do it there too!!....I love you snookybear...now go get it on with my friend!!

183 posted on 06/11/2002 10:18:34 PM PDT by Rheo
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To: John Jamieson
Search for "Easton" or keyword WESTERFIELD

Thanks, John! I tried searching on "Westerfield" and this current one a bunch of really old threads showed up. "Easton" helped.
184 posted on 06/11/2002 10:19:55 PM PDT by sbnsd
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To: Rheo
I'm still trying to figure out how one brings it up to their spouse that they would like to try this...

It's a conversation that I can't even imagine. I think my husband might coax me into the car for a quick trip to the psych ward.

185 posted on 06/11/2002 10:32:42 PM PDT by Southflanknorthpawsis
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To: Southflanknorthpawsis
I'm still trying to figure out how one brings it up to their spouse that they would like to try this...

It's a conversation that I can't even imagine. I think my husband might coax me into the car for a quick trip to the psych ward.


I can't imagine wanting to do this unless you have enormous self-esteem or self-confidence. I'd be paranoid that I'd be compared to all the time or wanting someone who'd be "better" than my own husband. Why in the world would you want to introduce this? If you've ever read FresnoDA's posts on the rules to swinging, you can't become emotionally involved. Even if you can get away with staying detached, how do you prevent the comparisons and desires for your non-spouse? Too many questions that I don't comprehend.
186 posted on 06/11/2002 10:59:22 PM PDT by sbnsd
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To: spectre
Yeah they don't have enough to worry about on the terror front. They need to crack down on this chick. Get your priorities straight my man.
187 posted on 06/12/2002 1:21:52 AM PDT by Greg Weston
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To: dougherty
I guess you never went to any discos in the 70's.
188 posted on 06/12/2002 1:23:30 AM PDT by Greg Weston
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To: Greg Weston
I guess you never went to any discos in the 70's.

Nope, never did. However, considering that I was born in the 70's, that shouldn't be too surprisng.

189 posted on 06/12/2002 4:43:27 AM PDT by dougherty
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To: dougherty
Well I would never describe a hot chick rubbing up against me as "creepy". It's quite nice actually.
190 posted on 06/12/2002 4:53:16 AM PDT by Greg Weston
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To: Greg Weston
Hi Greg...Mrs..spectre on board.

Good comment, although it wasn't Mr. Spectre whose priorities about the Van Dam threads should be addressed. It was little wifey who is saying them...so don't fault him.

I can tell you, tho...Greg, that if HE or any of his C-130 Flight School Students admitted to smoking pot or get caught smoking pot, they ARE gone and not just from the Cockpit either...sorry, them's the rules.

sw

191 posted on 06/12/2002 5:12:30 AM PDT by spectre
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To: cyncooper
Maybe you can retract your mea's--some of what I know we heard Monday isn't there. I don't know if this is an "editing" thing or if they just haven't gotten everything posted yet?
192 posted on 06/12/2002 5:55:37 AM PDT by MizSterious
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To: sbnsd
Too many questions that I don't comprehend.

I agree........too many questions and I don't want to know the answers. Yuck !!!

193 posted on 06/12/2002 7:07:15 AM PDT by Southflanknorthpawsis
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To: spectre
Is this young lady flying any plane herself? Maybe you would like to crack down on the pot smoking habits of some guy who cleans airport bathrooms perhaps??
194 posted on 06/12/2002 5:14:06 PM PDT by Greg Weston
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