>>>Since Benjamin Franklin and the rest of Founding Fathers are not good role models according to you I wonder just who you would want us to emulate?
One of the worse things you can do on FR, is put words in other peoples mouths. Which is what you just did with me. I never said, the Founding Fathers weren't good role models. Quite the contrary is true and I dare you, to post my words (and a link) to that effect. You won't be able to, because I never said them. And i you're going to use one quote from Franklin that I disgareed with, to make your point, you'll have to do better then that.
Waiting patiently.