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To: UCANSEE2
OH BOY.. did you ever open a can of worms. Look, I can answer your Christianity questions.. and I will. But I will first have to look up and QUOTE for you the authority God gave Governments. I can even show you ref. to the Death penalty. I can give you Scripture on how we as citizens are to obey our Governments. America isn't our enemy.. and we are the most ethical and decent country on this good earth. So yes,.. we are to live by this countries laws. By it's authority.

As to the death of Danny Pearl.. did you see the video? Can you honestly believe that anyone would do that to a prisoner of the USA?? COME ON!!

Whew.. I WILL answer you.. but it won't be tonight.

As to war.. yes we did serve during Vietnam. And yes, we've seen death. One of us even carried out our wounded, and then helped in the hospitals as our troops lost legs and limbs. Carried back the dead, so they could be buried honorably. One of us was shot down in Nam. One of us worked with the walking dead.. our returning POW's.

I have been in the Pentagon in the MCC room. A privledge reserved for our Nations highest in authority. Not everyone, not even some extremely high ranking Military or Congressmen/women get the honor of doing that. I do have a pretty good idea of what the MAJORITY of our good people do for this country. I'm proud of them all. AS human nature will have it.. there are a few bad people. But you know what? MOST, and I mean MOST, 99 and 9/10ths are honorable, decent and good. We are blessed as a Nation to have them.

Now that we are un-tying their collective hands.. we will see them ABLE to do more.

Your from the "show me state".. well I'm from the "Seen it STATE!". And I will trust our Government .. I feel sad that you can't seem to do the same. But I can assure you.. we know many of these fine men and women who are serving in many capacities for this country, and we are lucky to have them.

Sad you can't comprehend that fact,..but would rather feel pity for these animals who would do us all harm. I just never will get your way of thinking,.. it is dumbfounding!

MORE TOMORROW regarding WAR, and how it is sanctioned by God for Nations to act morally, and to defend it's people. In otherwords,.. we are the good guys "UCANSEE2" (if you really tried.)

FRegards,..and goodnight.

853 posted on 06/10/2002 11:11:13 PM PDT by Vets_Husband_and_Wife
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To: Vets_Husband_and_Wife
,..but would rather feel pity for these animals who would do us all harm

I do not. Once again, let me reiterate what I was saying. This poor schuck, is being used as an example. I did go back and read the news releases and the posts,replies by everyone. Many think the same way I do. This Jose Padilla is a terrorist. He was training to commit a terrorist act. He is a US citizen. I think they should just shoot him.

He was arrested a month ago. He was only caught because the one of the high ranking Al Quada in GITMO spilt the beans.

HE DID NOT YET MAKE A BOMB NOR HAVE IT ON HIM. But the government would like you to think so. WHY? Because they are looking like fools. They keep making major mistakes. We have tons of intelligence gathering teams and they can't put 2 + 2 together. Their latest 'scam' was crying that they couldn't decipher intel info cause they didn't have any arabic speaking employees.

Yeah, I guess nobody would have guessed we would ever need Arabic speaking FBI or CIA agents, cause we only got involved in the middle east this year. RIGHT ???????

Had we ignored the info given to us by the Al Quada prisoner, and not arrested this particulat man, he COULD HAVE carried out his plan. HE POTENTIALLY could have. Of course, he didn't have the necessary materials for this yet.

SO, Ashcroft is MAKING A BIG DEAL out of this TO COVER THE GOVERNMENTS ASS, and to SET A PRECEDENT for handling these types of situations.

I think you are confusing BLIND ALLEGIANCE TO GOVERNMENT with PATRIOTISM. I believe in the 2nd, and never will go with the first. YOU DO AS YOU CHOOSE, that also is your right.

If you wish to ignorantly (as you so succintly stated) follow government leaders that tell you it's raining while they are peeing on your leg, go ahead.

If you choose to stand up for your rights, defend your fellow countrymen, then we are standing together.

I don't think there is a way you can convince me to blindly accept all actions (and people) of the government as truthful/honest/for my own good.

You can't convince me you really don't know the difference between piss and rain. I can't believe that someone that has had to fight for his country and seen the corruption in our government would want others to blindly follow. You weren't taught to walk through enemy territory with your eyes close, now were you.

855 posted on 06/10/2002 11:49:34 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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