[H8DEMS]

Day-by-day, African people in America are becoming more familiar with the concept of reparations...

See definition of PROPAGANDA

[timestax]

There is NO legal basis for reparations. NONE!

[mhking]

1. The Trans Atlantic Slave Trade and Slavery
2. Expropriation of Our Labor-

The United States did not exist when the slave trade began, and by the time that the country was founded, the importation of slaves had slowed to a trickle of what it had been when the US were British Crown Colonies. The US cannot be held accountable for actions that occured prior to their existance.

3. Slave Code Laws- The slave owners developed their own codes of what they could do to enslaved African people in America that permeated throughout the emergence of this country. In many ways, informal slave codes exist today (racial profiling).

The laws were based on the British Crown. They were the law of the land. Slave trade was legal, period. It may not have been morally right, but it was legally correct. And there is no way that profiling can be equated with any sort of law based on slave trade. Next...

4. Destruction of the African Family-
5. Raping of African Women-

Again, the US didn't exist, the trade was not sanctioned by the US, the bulk of slave traders were private vessels and private firms. And when you can prove a crime - rape - was committed, directly, then you would have a course of action -- of course, provided it was adjudicated within the statute of limitations.

6. Fugitive Slave Laws-

The laws governing slaves were legal, based upon the laws of the land at the time, period. Using contemporary legal standards cannot be used. Next...

7. Colonizing of Our African Culture-
8. KKK Night Riders and Lynchings-

These acts were perpetrated by private citizens; once again, subject to the laws of the time and the statute of limitations. Next...

9. The 13th and 14th Constitutional Amendments- The abolishment of slavery was really a constitutional scam and the 14th Amendment that allegedly made African people citizens of America was imposed on us. We were never asked if we wanted to be citizens.

No problem - Delta is ready when you are. Otherwise, you can be deposited at the nearest international border so you may begin your soul searching and traveling there.

10. Denied Our 40 Acres and a Mule-
11. Jim Crow Laws-
12. Fighting and Dying In Imperialist and White Supremacist Wars-

I'm sorry - which is it, you don't want to be a citizen, don't want to defend the homes that you have made here (you do have a home in the US, don't you?), but then you want to own land in this country? If that isn't a contradiction, then I don't know what is. As for the Jim Crow laws, they were legal. If a law is wrong, there is a mechanism for rectifying that. The Jim Crow laws were eradicated through this process.

13. Assassination of Black Leaders- Malcolm X, Dr. King, Fred Hampton, and Mark Clark to name a few.

Evidence indicates that Malcolm X and Fred Hampton were killed by members of their own organizations; the jury is still out on Dr. King, but even if he were killed by government agents, how does that entitle you to anything?

14. COINTELPRO-
15. Crack Epidemic-
16. Criminalizing Our Youth-
17. Jailing of Freedom Fighters-
18. & 19. Centuries of Mis-Education and Mental Atrocities-

COINTELPRO was an outgrowth of the McCarthy era search for Communist spies within the US. The Crack Epidemic that is alluded to here is a pipe dream of US Representative Maxine Waters' that provides an excuse for the sorry state of affairs within her district. As for the prison system, if our youth were not perpetrating the crimes, they would not be in the prison system to begin with. And as for the "freedom fighters," I'm sorry, Mumia Abu Jamal isn't anybody's freedom fighter - he's a cop killer.

And with the "mis-education and mental atrocities," you have not demonstrated nor provided any support for your assertions for me to refute.

Please go back to the drawing board and try this again. Maybe you can come up with some valid arguements to discuss next time.

[kcvl]

Last November, a high-powered legal team announced their intention to seek reparations for the descendants of American slaves by suing the US government, as well as specific American corporations and individuals who directly benefited from slavery and its aftermath of Jim Crow segregation. Charles Ogletree, a Harvard Law School professor and prominent legal theorist, is spearheading the move. Among those joining Professor Ogletree in his efforts are Alexander Pires Jr., who won a $1 billion dollar settlement for black farmers in a discrimination suit against the US Department of Agriculture; Richard Scruggs, who won a $368 billion dollar settlement for states against tobacco companies; and Johnnie Cochran. Their arguments, just now gaining nationwide media recognition, are as complex as they are controversial. In an interview with Africana.com, Professor Ogletree talked about his views on the legacy of American slavery, and the desperate need for reparations for African Americans.

What would you say to critics who would argue that welfare and other social programs of the last 35 years have effectively been a reparative means to correct past wrongs, particularly those committed against American blacks?

I think if you look at the status of African Americans in our society today, these programs, while well-intentioned, certainly haven't been successful in solving the problems and they certainly haven't eliminated disparity or racism or profiling or prejudice. So I think there's still a lot of work to do and we can't look at some well-intentioned efforts and then assume that we've solved the problem or really adequately addressed the problem. We're not there yet.

First published: August 28, 2001

[ethical]

A Seattle public school, the African American Academy, says that part of their mission is to educate students to the undeniable fact that ALL humanity originated out of Africa. Most of these black reparation "leaders" believe this. Hence, we are all black, end of reparations argument.

[KansasGirl]

This guy sounds abosolutely nuts! Completely irrational...

[Lizavetta]

The Millions For Reparations Rally that will be held on August 17, 2002, the 115th birthday of the Honorable Marcus Mosiah Garvey, in Washington, D.C. promises to be one of the most historic gatherings of African people in America.

Honorable Marcus Garvey? Hardly. This is the man who sold his own people false stock in the non-existent Black Star shipping lines, which was to take them all back to Africa. Ripped them off wholesale, over and over again. How ironic that a rip-off artist who would screw his own people is the patron saint of this ridiculous event.

[JimRed]

In pursuit of this repair, we are conscious of the fact we must engage in the process of assuming responsibility for repairing ourselves that includes: changing the way we think, supporting our own institutions, particularly financially, supporting our families, supporting our own Black business enterprises, cleaning up our own communities, and changing the way we relate to, and think of, each other as a people. These are just a few of the internal repairs we must constantly work on.

Please, guys! Had you started these "repairs" a couple of generations ago, you wouldn't "need" the reparations!

Sounds like another scheme for the so-called leaders to enrich themselves.

[Polybius]

......the 14th Amendment that allegedly made African people citizens of America was imposed on us. We were never asked if we wanted to be citizens.

Except for adult immigrants, nobody ever becomes a U.S. citizen voluntarily. It is merely an accident of birth or the decision of the adult immigrant parent.

If this guy does not want to be a U.S. citizen, all he has to do is leave the country and renounce his citizenship. Paying for his one-way airfare back to the Old Country is one form of reparations I think we can all agree on.

[kcvl]

"An apology isn't enough. What are you going to do after you apologize? And why is all this (the apology and commis sion) occurring at this time?" asked Worrill, who, on May 21, delivered a 157,000-signature petition on behalf of NBUF to the United Nations charging the government with genocide.

Congressman John Conyers' (D-MI.) Congressional Black Caucus' support of Reparations Bill HR-40.

[KSCITYBOY]

I pray that this rally happens - How many democratic senators and reps will show? If they show they will lose every white, hispanic, & asian voter - If they don't show their black base will be significantly damaged. I'm all for this rally.

[goldstategop]

I'd don't know where to start. What I do know is I don't know them a red cent. What's more is the ingratitude of these wretches for everything this beautiful country has given them. The hundreds of thousands of white American Union soldiers who fought a divisive war to help set them free and offer them the promise of American citizenship - it was all a scam. That what they really wanted was to go back to Africa. Back in 1865 we should have forcibly deported them all back and we wouldn't have had segregation and Jim Crow and the lot of the racial conflicts we've had up to now. Silly me for thinking a multiracial society could work in this country. Actually it does for virtually every one else. If they're so unhappy here they can all fly back home right now and no one will stand in their way. But I'll be damned if they extort a country to whom they claim no attachment and no loyalty and they'll get their so called reparations loot only over my dead body. Now there I'm had my rant and the fill of people who whine whine whine and never thank the Good Lord for the blessings of freedom and being alive.

[Orual]

Mentacide: "Most African people in America are aware that our minds were tampered with as a result of our forced capture and enslavement in America."---Conrad Worrill

The Million Man Mentacide March..

[sauropod]

Oh GOODY!!

Deus Vult! 'Pod

[sauropod]

Ping!

[SkyPilot]

[BlackElk]

It sure would have been nice if they had held this rally a bit later in the election calendar but August 17 will do. How many embattled Demonrats will show? Will even Her Satanioc Majesty, the junior senator from New York lend her presence and voice as Mrs. Arkansas Antichrist? Will The Slickster show up? I sure hope so. This rally deserved wall-to-wall TV coverage too. It is a mass political suicide that you can record on your VCR.

[Mamzelle]

OPPORTUNITY--

insist that Daschle, Gephardt, Hillary and all take a stand on the issue of reparations.

[Bars4Bill]

16. Criminalizing Our Youth- It should be obvious that the aim of the Prison Industrial Complex is to Criminalize Our Youth to insure a young and viable work force for this multibillion-dollar industry.

Last time I checked, you gotta dosomething to get into the "Prison Industrial Complex." You know, something like "Commit a Crime."

[DoctorMichael]

Amusing..........published in Black Culture Today; sounds more to me like the magazine and the author are living in the past.

[Lost Highway]

What do we want!?

Your money!

When do we want it!?

Now!