Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

How come nobody is saying it: Osama is DEAD!
Me

Posted on 06/09/2002 11:25:21 AM PDT by VaBthang4

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 81-100101-120121-140141-150 last
To: Alan Chapman
How come nobody is saying it: Osama is DEAD!

Because nobody knows for certain.

Oh really? How certain are you that nobody knows for certain?

141 posted on 06/11/2002 9:38:02 AM PDT by FreeReign
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: VaBthang4
Sure, he's in China....to be re-inserted at the proper time
142 posted on 06/11/2002 9:42:50 AM PDT by chemainus
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: VaBthang4
Yep, my brain is tellin me the same thing.
143 posted on 06/11/2002 4:33:08 PM PDT by Outraged
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: freefly
A living Osama bin Laden is useful ...

A dead Osama is useful because it tells the evil of the world, don't ever f**king do this again!

144 posted on 06/11/2002 7:54:38 PM PDT by FreeReign
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 139 | View Replies]

To: VaBthang4
He is alive and probly hanging out at the ranch in Crawford or at Camp David. The bushes and bin ladens vacation together. DEATH TO THE NWO SCUM!!!
145 posted on 06/12/2002 12:28:04 AM PDT by ChefKeith
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: VOA; swarthyguy; PsyOps
I totally concur with you (VOA)when it comes to the question of Osama's demise! I too believe there is a great probability that he is dead, and that he has been dead for quite sometime now.

However one thing that most Americans seem to do is to mistake the Arab mentality for westernized thinking! These Jehadis can lay dormant for decades... and there is even folklore of them staying low for centuries in the past! Hence it is very possible for someone like UBL to decide to lay low, hidden from pursuers and the like, and even relegating control to subordinates (especially when you consider al Queda is in reality an 'umbrella' terrorist group).

And the reason he would do such a thing is not to recuperate or gather resources. Nope. Simply to lull the world into a false sense of security, and once everyone is complacent and oblivious he strikes! Imagine a tape from UBL after some attack! The ramifications would be quite far-reaching...ranging from his perception as some 'hero' in the Islamic street, to our Federal Agencies being seen as ineffective and useless!

However as i said i believe the person is dead! Still that in itself is a problem.

Most people have somehow tied UBL solely as evil personified, when in essence he is simply a figurehead (albeit a wealthy one)! There are many willing to pick up his mantle, and they have connections that bode ill. For example the Pakistani ISI has had some connections with al Queda, as well with a myriad of other terrorist groups! And being the Pakistani intelligence service they can offer resources that were only dreamt of in the history of organized terrorism (imagine a kiloton level device 'accidentally lost' by the ISI into the hands of some holding terrorist camp).

Then there is the fact that a lot of the financial backing of the terrorists is still in place, and in many cases protected from direct assault (for example the Saudi and Kuwaiti finance support channels are impermeable to the US because we would never insult our 'loving Islamic allies').

The other big problem is that up to now most of the people arrested and taken into custody have been what i call 'mules.' Simply human automatons that serve as either cannon fodder (eg in Tora Bora against the US forces) or as kamikazes (the ones utilized for suicidal strike missions)! The ones i refer to as the 'strategists' as well as the 'financiers' are left in place! Which i find to to be rather foolish since in the Arab world you can find hordes of mules.....multitudes of naive young men and women willing to sacrifice their lives in the service of Allah (or demagogues claiming to be performing the will of Allah)!

However there are relatively fewer masterminds, and even fewer financiers!

Yet up to now we have been capturing people who are extremely dispensable .....mere pawns! And i believe the only high profile target we have is that Zubadyah character! And the rest of the cerebral players and the fat cash wads roam free.... plotting!

And the thing we should know is that we are dealing with people who do not think according to the normal parameters of logic! These are people who are willing to die...even seeing it as a religious priviledge! Meaning that we face a foe who wants to succeed....but at the same time views failure through death as an even greater form of success, going to 'aradise'and receiving the 'gifts of Allah!'

This simply means they are willing to employ tactics that are not only unconventional but are totally illogical, making them hard to predict. For example before 9-11 most 'experts and analysts' would have asserted that attacking the Twin Towers with fuel-laden planes would have been extremely improbable due to the logistics, planning. meticulous execution, and risks involved. According to them it would neevr have happened because no LOGICAL group would have used that avenue....instead they would have expected something 'normal.' However these guys are highly unorthodox, and that may be one of their greatest strengths...the ability to use plans that are completely idiotic to an 'orthodox' mind, but still highly thought out, and carried out by fanatics under the orders of some demagogue claiming divine instruction!

Anyway my point is that although i believe UBL is DEAD, there is a good chance he is merely biding his time. And even though he may actually in reality be dead that is no reason to be complacent since he was merely a publicized figure head! Also we need to lay off the mules and get the financiers and masterminds...otherwise we will still be facing hordes of mindless jehadis. If we get the big boys our fight will be much much easier since most of the Jehadis cannot think or organize themselves efficiently...however we still need to get the shot callers and money cats!

Otherwise it is a snipe hunt!

146 posted on 06/12/2002 8:14:44 AM PDT by spetznaz
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 64 | View Replies]

To: VaBthang4
What's the best way to check if he's dead?

Check to see if his name is on the Democratic voter lists in California.

147 posted on 06/12/2002 9:00:35 PM PDT by Cicero
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Cicero
btt
148 posted on 06/12/2002 9:28:24 PM PDT by LikeLight
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 147 | View Replies]

To: VaBthang4
IMO, a proper pysop would be to have a (our) very good look alike ( or Industrial Light and Magic) on one tape after another holding a large cross and telling his death cult that he has converted to the True Religion of Peace, Christianity, and that Satan is dancing in the heads of mullahs and adulterous Islamic political leaders. That would bring out Elvis, unless he has left the building.
149 posted on 06/13/2002 4:18:59 AM PDT by SevenDaysInMay
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: VaBthang4
.
150 posted on 07/05/2002 6:33:11 AM PDT by Admin Moderator
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 81-100101-120121-140141-150 last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson