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To: Common Tator
People "like me"?? lol, why don't you describe myself for me. What am I "like"?

And while you're at it answer for me which one of the following you support (Please be specific):

CFR,

Nationalizing Airport security,

60% increase in the Dept of Ed,

Amnesty for illegals,

open borders,

50% increase in foreign aid,

blaming global warming on humans,

13 week extension on unemployment benefits,

doubling farm welfare,

banning oil exploration in Florida, or

sending Treasury Secretary O'Neill to Africa with Bono.And weren't you bashing Clinton for making every decision after sticking a wet finger in the air?

Bush is no conservative, not even close, but go ahead and continue to delude yourself.

59 posted on 06/08/2002 6:37:19 PM PDT by GuillermoX
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To: GuillermoX
What is your point?
61 posted on 06/08/2002 6:53:05 PM PDT by Texasforever
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To: GuillermoX
Bush is no conservative?

God I hope not.

But you make my point. I said that if you ever start to support Bush, Dubya would change his positions. You do not refute that. So Bush will not have to change his positions. You do not support him, now. Never have. Never will. Surprise Surprise. Bush will never listen to you or follow your wishes. Guess what. Daschle, Gephardt and Gore won't either.

No one in power ever has or ever will listen to you.

What part of being totally insignificant appeals to you most.


68 posted on 06/08/2002 7:47:50 PM PDT by Common Tator
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To: GuillermoX
I'll take a crack at the "doubling farm welfare" claim.

Farm Reform Reversal
by Chris Edwards and Tad DeHaven

Cato Institute

With support from the Bush administration, Congress appears set to pass a huge farm bill that moves decisively away from agriculture policy reforms enacted in 1996. The increases in this year's bill will cause farm subsidies to cost taxpayers at least $170 billion over the next decade. The costs may end up being much higher. When the 1996 law was passed, subsidies were expected to cost $47 billion in total from 1996 to 2002.[1] Instead, farm subsidies since 1996 have cost $123 billion.[2]

The landmark 1996 Freedom to Farm law was designed to move away from the command-and-control regime that had marked six decades of federal farm policy. The law increased farmers' flexibility in planting and eliminated some price supports for major crops. The law was also supposed to phase down subsidy levels between 1996 and 2002. But after the law's enactment, Congress ignored agreed-upon subsidy limits and has passed huge farm supplemental spending bills every year since 1998. As a result, total farm subsidies have soared to more than $20 billion per year, up from an average of $9 billion per year in the early 1990s (see Chart 1).[3]

So, if I do the math, Bush's "doubling of farm welfare actually cuts the farm subsidies an average of 4.83 billion per year.

21.83 (average farm spending over past three years) – 17.00 = (4.83) billion per year cut

link to data here

78 posted on 06/08/2002 8:44:24 PM PDT by terilyn
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To: GuillermoX
"60% increase in the Dept of Ed"

Haven't you heard? Kennedy and the other dems are hopping mad at Bush's Education Bill. It seems they didn't read the fine print.

Oh, the money's there, but the schools and teachers actually have to perform up to standards to receive the increases. Here Kennedy thought he got a huge increase in spending. Too bad they haven't figured out that throwing more money at a problem doesn't fix it. Bush figured it out. They have to fix it before they get the money.

79 posted on 06/08/2002 8:48:04 PM PDT by terilyn
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To: GuillermoX
"50% increase in foreign aid,"

True, but not through the UN. The money is there for who we say, when we say, not who and when the UN says. Didn't you hear Bush say that we wouldn't be sending money to governments that didn't deserve it because they're tyrants? It will go only to those governments that demonstrate that they're using it for the good of their people, not to build huge dictatorships and starve their people.

80 posted on 06/08/2002 8:52:10 PM PDT by terilyn
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