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This “study” was a volunteer study and has no value in determining the real success and failure rate.

So... the subjects of Throckmorton's "study" weren't volunteers? Did he hop over to Exodus and NARTH and kidnap people to study, "You WILL answer these questions!"? What, exactly, distinguishes one study on the successes and failures of ex-gay therapy from another? The fact that one says something you wish to believe?

Oh.. hmm... "His analysis gathers previous studies of individuals who sought to change their sexual orientation. A majority of those responding to surveys of former gays indicate their experiences were positive and helpful."

So we're talking about a "meta-analysis" -- Rind Report, anyone? Oh, and hmmm, people who answered surveys, obviously at gunpoint -- "volunteers" not allowed, dontchaknow.

As far as "brainwashing" being a myth, feel free to look up the phrase "cult deprogramming" on Google.

What, exactly, distinguishes one study on the successes and failures of ex-gay therapy from another?

Throckmorton solicited 200 reparative psychologists and surveyed their 800+ patients. Shidlo and Schroeder advertised an 800 number over the internet. One study has an identified subject group and the other is statistically anecdotal. Statistical models are only valid if the outcome is subject to chance, advertising for subjects is not random sampling and open to any number of possibilities for corruption.

The fact that one says something you wish to believe?

Since you know nothing about your proffered studies, I’d say you more closely resemble that remark.

So we're talking about a "meta-analysis" -- Rind Report, anyone?

Nope! Wrong again. You should really do your homework.

Oh, and hmmm, people who answered surveys, obviously at gunpoint -- "volunteers" not allowed, dontchaknow.

So by your logic, everyone who ever tacitly participated in a survey constitutes a volunteer study? Hehehe…. You should be so embarrassed, your stupidity is breathtaking.