2 Rock Guitarists Dead In Last 24 hours...Ratt's Robbin Crosby and The Ramones Dee Dee Ramone

AP/Reuters/All media outlets | 6-7-02 | my favorite headache

[My Favorite Headache]

I am posting this thread if anyone cares to add to it. I am a fan of so many different styles of music and the last 24 hours has claimed the lives of 2 men who took part in 2 totally different rock bands during 2 totally different periods of popularity.

The death's of Layne Staley from Alice In Chains was a waste. A total waste of incredible talent, gone forever due to an addiction to heroin. Dee Dee Ramone from the famous punk band The Ramones died of the very same thing a little more than a day ago. Robbin Crosby one of 2 guitarists in the 80s hard rock act RATT died from a long battle with AIDS, attributed from use of a dirty heroin needle.

Robbin was really a great guy. I saw RATT live with him and he was a great performer. He was also responsible for some of the best licks i.e. Round and Round, Wanted Man,Lay It Down, You're In Love,Back For More, Dance, Dance, Dance,Way Cool Jr., What's It Gonna Be? and much more. Hit after hit from Ratt.

He also dated everyone from Heather Locklear (who didn't?), Tawney Kitaen, and various models and actresses. He had such great talent but it all went to hell by way of the needle. A personality to light up a room. Yes a ton of people in here probably have never heard of him and will just call him another heroin junkie rock star who got what he deserved. But Robbin never denied that.

When he was on Geraldo's show about 7 yrs ago...his hands were swollen, he could not even play the guitar anymore and he had been diagnosed with HIV at the time.But he accepted it and also accepted CHRIST. He knew he played russian roulette and lost.

I am not going to gush over this anymore. I just came home from a 12 hour shift at work to have the news sent to me about his passing. I just wanted to recognize his life in some way because his music was something that was just downright...good.

Robbin is up with Christ now and his long and painful battle with AIDS is over.

R.I.P to the both of them.

[plain talk]

I just thought in our society if you are doing something legal and someone else will pay you for it that is called capitalism. Isn't that good? I mean, isn't making money the legal way, even if you in particular don't like it, good?

uh, no. When I think of bands that really made it and made lots of money, somehow Ratt and the Ramones just don't come to mind. So that's the money angle. As for the artist angle, well ... their music doesn't strike me as something that is much remembered now much less 20 years from now. I doubt 1% of the public could even identify just one of their songs. More like throw away slop from the 70's and 80's. HOWEVER, I will confess ... to actually liking the Ramones' "Glad to see you Go" song for some crazy reason.

[HardStarboard]

>>>But Robbin never denied that.<<<

So if he never denied he was a junkie.......why are you disraught? Knowing he was a druggie, did you offer to help him? I'd bet not.

He obviously went the way he chose....mourn not!

Never heard his music....doubt that one more drugged musician will make a legacy for himself....if he does, we need to ask ourselves why??

[Big Bunyip]

Yeah, well, I was probably exagerating about junior's taste for rap, although there is a bit too much of it in the house for this old fart's tastes. He and his mates dress the part -- oppressed members of the white-boy-with-elephantine-pants-and-gold-chains community -- but I came home the other day and Squirt had White Light/White Heat from Rock and Roll Animal blasting on auto repeat while he did his homework.

So if he likes Lou, there may yet be hope for him.

I've got the Bonfire triple set, the one with the radio concert in New York and the live gig in paris. Powerage is neat album, too. I grew up in Australia and used to see the seedies at the local pubs all over Melbourne. They were a real hard-workin' dirty band, three gigs a night circa 1975 or so -- and Bon in a close, crowded room was unbelievable.

So now that I've established my ruptured-eardrum credentials, you know who I saw tonight live? A gal called Norah Jones who sings and plays piano and who couldn't be softer or quieter but is an absolutely astonishing vocalist. I must be getting old.

[rockfish59]

I saw them once when 'For Those About To Rock' came out.
Last band I saw live was ZZ Topp & Steve Miller. Miller played about 20 songs and ZZ put on the craziest show ever.
Definately got our money's worth for the $28 tickets.
Only bad part.....the punk dickheads in the audience!

I'd like to catch Ringo & The All Stars someday!

[hole_n_one]

You must be a Judas Priest fan

He isn't another one of those Catholic clergy members entangled in the pedophilia crimes, is he?

[danmar]

....what can I say paisano, you reap what you sow no matter what,...this is life, very easy to end it if you choose to do so, but, boy, hard to live up to! You WILL pay the price for your passed mistakes. If anyone thinks that, becoming/turning super dooper christians, and think that a late acknowledgement of Jesus Christ it will at the 1159 time will change their stance with the all mighty, they will be very much mistaken, period.

GOD'S way is not a drive through issue...remember...no matter who you are, in front of GOD you are nobody...!(amazing how many people find that out when shit hits the fan).

[JennysCool]

My niece has been a user since 1968. I'm 52 and she's a year or so younger than me and last time I saw her she looked about 70. I'm amazed she's never OD'd.

Glad you both seem to be okay. I got a feelin', no matter what we might do, that we go when it's our time to go. How many times have you read of some hard-livin' individual departing at 90, when a scrupulously healthy sort goes at 33. It's the luck of the draw, folks. But realizing that decreases the amount of money charities get from the fund drives. So no one notes it.

[Calvin Locke]

Is it me, or did they intentionally part the hair and position
the guy behind to give the impression of giving the finger?
(Right side of #3)

[rockfish59]

I must be getting old!

Nah, you're just expanding your tastes. I was a die hard rocker from the 'Summer of Love' (oh brother), but I now listen to all kinds of music:

Nickle Creek (bluegrass)
Maire Brennan (spiritual)
Frank Sinatra
Buddy Rich & Gene Krupa
WW2 Big Band
Classics like 'Bolero'

But I still like good 'ol rock. One of my fave new CD's is Paul Rodgers 'Electric'. It ROCKS ('Deep Blue' rips) + has some mellow tunes too.
I also just swapped for two early Beatles CD's as I love their older stuff.

[Washington-Husky]

"Cold Cold Heart" is pure silk and bears a listen or two...

Norah Jones MP3 of "Cold Cold Heart" (Hopefully you have RealPlayer capability on your computer...)

[Soulcleaver]

Alice In Chains/Mad Season was a source for some amazing lyrics, not to mention some amazing music.

"Angry Chair"

Sitting on an angry chair
Angry walls that steal the air
Stomach hurts and I don't care

What do I see across the way
See myself molded in clay
Stares at me, yeah I'm afraid
Changing the shape of his face

Candles red I have a pair
Shadows dancing everywhere
burning on the angry chair

Little boy made a mistake
Pink cloud has now turned to gray
All that I want is to play
Get on your knees, time to pray, boy

I don't mind, yeah
I don't mind,
I don't mind, yeah,
I don't mind,
Lost my mind, yeah
But I don't mind,
Can't find it anywhere
I don't mind

Corporate prison, we stay
I'm a dull boy, work all day
So I'm strung out anyway

Loneliness is not a phase
Field of pain is where I graze
Serenity is far away

Saw my reflection and cried
So little hope that I died
Feed me your lies, open wide
Weight of my heart, not the size

I don't mind, yeah
I don't mind,
I don't mind, yeah,
I don't mind,
Lost my mind, yeah
But I don't mind,
Can't find it anywhere
I don't mind

Pink cloud has now turned to gray
All that I want is to play
Get on your knees time to pray, boy

"Brother"

Frozen in the place I hide
Not afraid to paint my sky with
Some who say I've lost my mind
Brother try and hope to find

You were always so far away
I know that pain so don't you run away
Like you used to do

Roses in a vase of white
Bloodied by the thorns beside the leaves
That fall because my hand is pulling them hard as I can

You were always so far away
I know that pain and I won't run away
Like I used to do

Pictures in a box at home
Yellowing and green with mold
So I can barely see your face
Wonder how that color taste

You were always so far away
I know the way so don't you run away
Like you used to do
Like you used to do

"Lifeless Dead"

Lifeless dead, that unclean bed
Till or when her hunger's fed
How he'd wished that they would wed
"I promise on our love" she said
Promises were never kept
Alone on dirty floor he slept

Yeah, Lifeless Dead

And although he'd not accept
She was gone and so he wept
Then a demon came to him
"You must know I'm gonna win"

Yeah, Lifeless Dead

He said, she said
She led him dead
He said we bled
She said not fed

Lifeless Dead, Lifeless Dead
Lifeless Dead, Lifeless Dead...

[BikerTrash]

We brought him up straight and decent on Angus and Bon and Rudd, and now he fills the house with Eminem.

Lemme ask ya somethin' if you don't mind.

It certainly sounds like you did the right thing, but did your boy ever like AC/DC? Or did you force it on him?

I ask this because my 7 year old boy's favorite song is "For Those About to Rock," and his favorite band is The Thunder from Down Under. He spits venom at (c)rap music. And I will move Heaven and earth to keep it this way.

Do I have a chance?

[Walkin Man]

Drugs kill, cigarettes, the bottle, needle, pill, name your poison. There but for the grace of God, go I. I'm glad Jesus was his savior, he has passed from death to life eternal, praise God!

Round and Round is a great song.

[Syncro]

Gimme Shelter

Wasn't tht the "documentary" of the stones tour in '69?

I was there at the Altamont free concert they gave as their last preformance for that tour.

What a cast of musical characters and drug celeberities....Timothy Leary for one.

[Lonman219]

Yes you do. Like myself and Bon Scott say - "It's a long way to the top when you wanna rock n roll!"

[csvset]

"A noble spirit EMBIGGENS the smallest man."

[IronJack]

Not to be cold, but nothing killed these idiots. They killed themselves. Which is their right, I guess, but certainly elicits no sympathy from me.

You would think that, after 50 years of puffed-up musicians wasting themselves on drugs, someone would have caught on to the notion that they are NOT the exception to the Law of Mortality.

[Don Myers]

"Life goes on..."

And so does blind use of disabling and killing drugs.

[My Favorite Headache]

I assure you the thread that will be posted the day that either Alex Lifeson or Eddie Van Halen goes will be much more thorough.

[My Favorite Headache]

Not to mention the Uncle Miltie connection with RATT as well...