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'No One Ever Apologized' (USS Liberty)
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Posted on 06/07/2002 5:56:44 PM PDT by RCW2001

'No one ever apologized'
Beth Emley/Messenger Post Staff June 06, 2002
Veteran John Hrankowski, pictured here walking around the pool at his Greece home, won't give up on the fight to bring out the true account of the attack on the American intelligence ship, the USS Liberty. (STAFF PHOTO/ANMARI LINARDI)

John Hrankowski will be miles away from Arlington National Cemetery this weekend, but he will be close in spirit as fellow crewmates from the USS Liberty gather to remember the 35th anniversary of an Israeli attack on an American intelligence ship.

The Greece man said his health is preventing him from attending the "No Greater Love Remembrance Ceremony" Saturday in Washington, D.C., where crewmates will pause to remember the 34 who died and 172 wounded during the June 8, 1967 air and sea attack. The attack occurred during the Six Day War between Israel and the Arab states.

"It's got to be rectified because we didn't get killed. We're still here," said Hrankowski, who was 19 at the time of the attack and earned a Purple Heart for wounds he suffered.

The attack is controversial because Israel claimed it mistook the USS Liberty for an out-of-service Egyptian horse carrier El Quseir and that the U.S. was operating in a war zone without displaying a flag.

Hrankowski and other Americans dispute that account. They say the ship was in international waters, away from fighting, and that the American flag was flying.

Ever since the USS Liberty Veterans Association formed 20 years ago, Hrankowski - the only known USS Liberty survivor in Monroe County and one of only a few in the state - has been an outspoken advocate, talking to groups all over the country to tell the full story.

"Our government said Israel apologized and paid, but the Israelis have not answered and no one ever apologized," Hrankowski said.

According to information on the USS Liberty website, Lyndon Johnson in his memoirs called the attack "a tragic accident." Robert McNamara, his secretary of defense, stated "I didn't believe [the attack] was intended at the time, and I don't believe it now."

But Dean Rusk, Johnson's secretary of state, differed, saying: "I was never satisfied with the Israeli explanation. Their sustained attack to disable and sink Liberty precluded an assault by accident or some trigger-happy local commander. I didn't believe it then, and I don't believe it to this day. The attack was outrageous."

Hrankowski, 55, still suffers from post traumatic stress disorder because of wounds he suffered from being hit by metal pieces from explosives during the attack.

A former deputy sheriff with the Monroe County Court system, he left work because of his health 10 years ago. Over the past 10 years, he's endured colon surgery and a heart attack - in addition to the ongoing mental trauma.

"There's not a night I've slept a full night," said Hrankowski.

Hrankowski was 21 when he was discharged from the Navy in November of 1969 and returned to Rochester with his wife, Mary Ann, whom he married a few months before getting out of the service.

Hrankowski said for years, there wasn't much publicity about the attack until the early 1980s, when the Veterans Association formed.

During that time period, survivor Jim Ennes, an officer who witnessed the attack, wrote "Assault on the Liberty," which tells the story.

Since then, another book, "Body of Secrets," was written by another survivor, James Bamford, and a History Channel special called "Cover-up Attack on the USS Liberty," was aired four times this year.

A European film about the USS Liberty is about to be released, along with a book written by a Pulitzer-prize winning author, Hrankowski said.

Hrankowski and other veterans traveled to Washington earlier this year to talk to U.S. congressmen about the incident. He said there could be hearings in the future, but nothing is definite yet.

Because of the anniversary of the attack, Hrankowski said he's been deluged with requests for interviews from the local and national media, including MSNBC and CNN.

Hrankowski said publicity helps the cause, but what veterans want is full disclosure to Congress.

"All we want is to have everything released," he said. "We're just asking them to give us a shot like every other incident and have it documented for history and let us be on our way."

For more information on the USS Liberty attack, go to the website at www.ussliberty.org. The website was created by Jim Ennes and Joe Meadors, two survivors of the attack.


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To: AshleyMontagu
Ashley, about a year ago, I read almost every document at a USS Liberty web site, including Israeli documents and commentary.

It looked a lot like this one, and if I remember correctly, had the same or a very similar title. It included statements from all concerned parties, including members of the US congress, etc. It presented a very balanced view which your link, imho, does not.

I do not see the purpose in bringing up the Liberty at this time, except perhaps in driving a wedge into US public support for Israel in the middle east conflict. That is of benefit to the Palestinians. Reading these documents on your link, there was error on the part of the US, as well. Don't believe me, read the link you posted.

I don't intend to argue, only to state my opinion. Flame away, it won't bother me. My only purpose in posting here is to express, as I said, what I think.

101 posted on 06/08/2002 1:59:56 AM PDT by Judith Anne
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To: Tuco-bad
Good grief! Does questioning the attack of an American ship by an Israeli ship make a person an Israeli hater? I suppose no one is allowed to question anything Israel does or ever did. Can't we be allowed to love our own country first?
102 posted on 06/08/2002 2:11:37 AM PDT by DBtoo
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To: PsyOp
Perhaps he invested his money wisely. Or maybe he comes from a wealthy family. That's his business. You sound like you have a beef against this guy.
103 posted on 06/08/2002 2:25:28 AM PDT by DBtoo
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To: APBaer
Hey, are you related to Jethro?
104 posted on 06/08/2002 2:36:19 AM PDT by DBtoo
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To: eclectic
Thank you for another load of BS, that you have dumped here!

"BS"? You mean this didn't happen? The US Navy imagined the dead and wounded from this attack?

105 posted on 06/08/2002 3:05:51 AM PDT by sneakypete
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To: Tuco-bad
You being an Israel hater won't protect you from the Islamists.

And you being a Isreali lover won't protect you from attack by the Israeli's.

106 posted on 06/08/2002 3:07:46 AM PDT by sneakypete
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To: LadyAustin
Just because this poor guy still has grievances, doesn't mean that it isn't done with. Really.

You're right. He and the others,along with their families,should just go and put some ice on it. After all,it's not like they were "chosen people",or anything. They are just lousy Americans.

107 posted on 06/08/2002 3:11:04 AM PDT by sneakypete
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To: S.O.S121.500
I hate to bring this up, but isn't there still a lot of pissing and moaning going on about certain events which took place during WW2? Some events we must never forget; others we must pretend never happened? Big double standard there.
108 posted on 06/08/2002 3:11:38 AM PDT by DBtoo
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To: scotiamor
Don't forget the shameful role of Lyndon Johnson

Everything LBJ ever did in his whole disgusting life was shameful.

109 posted on 06/08/2002 3:13:09 AM PDT by sneakypete
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To: S.O.S121.500
B.F.D.......LOSER.

You're right. It was only Americans who were murdered. No big deal,right?

Steal a Life.

Isn't this what the Israeli's did multiple times that day? Granted,they were only American lives,but technically they were still people,right? Or do you disagree with them being people?

110 posted on 06/08/2002 3:16:24 AM PDT by sneakypete
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To: JMJ333
I think the reason for the knee jerk reaction from previos replies is that the thread poster is a one note song.

Maybe,but even a stopped clock is right twice a day,and when it is right,it is right.

111 posted on 06/08/2002 3:23:52 AM PDT by sneakypete
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To: LarryLied
One didn't even have to say the Mossad was behind it, merely wondering what the deal was got people labeled an Arafat supporter, a Nazi, a Jew hater, a conspiracy nut and so on.

I got banned for 3 days by Israeli-Firsters for crossing them on a thread about Israeli's with dual US/Israeli citizenship holding commissions in the Israeli Army,while never having served a day in the US Army,despite living and getting wealthy in the US. They complained to some unnammed Moderator,and I was banned for "posting anti-Semitic remarks" (a damn lie!) and "flame-baiting",which seems to be telling the plain truth that pisses people off.

112 posted on 06/08/2002 3:29:31 AM PDT by sneakypete
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To: hangin' chad
.you can kiss my American a... and go back to the foreign country you came from (or have loyalty to)

Uh,OH! You've done it now,dude! This is the same thing I got banned for saying.

113 posted on 06/08/2002 3:30:55 AM PDT by sneakypete
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To: PsyOp
In the picture, there is no image of a house or condo or anything, only the pool, and it may be a community pool for all we know. I took it for granted that it was in Greece. Also, I should have read the thread all the way through. I was under the impression the Liberty was attacked by a single Israeli warship. I didn't know all those details! It never hurts to learn the truth. I don't think this issue is going to make anyone turn against Israel and side with the throat-slitting monsters.

Many people are extremely sensitive to any criticism of Israel. I have noticed that here on FR. It's understandable in light of what the Israeli Jews have been up against. However, no one is perfect, and it's never a good idea to try to hide things like what happened to the Liberty. It means a lot to the men who were on board that ship and to their families.

114 posted on 06/08/2002 3:32:32 AM PDT by DBtoo
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To: sneakypete
To bring up a really incendiary notion, there are more important questions here than why the Israelis massacred more than half the crew of the USS Liberty.

Why did Lyndon Johnson and the American news media and others conspire to prevent a proper investigation of this incident?

Why did Israel get a pass that no other nation would have received?

Perhaps the answers to those questions would affect our perceptions of today's conflict between Israel and the Palestinians.

115 posted on 06/08/2002 3:40:15 AM PDT by ThePhilosopher
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To: AshleyMontagu
With all the typos and left out information in many articles, it's easy to make mistakes like that. I thought it odd when they referred to him in the article as "the Greece man" but I assumed it was one of those many typos that are so often seen in articles these days. So it was confusing. I also saw nothing about it being a town in New York.
116 posted on 06/08/2002 3:55:30 AM PDT by DBtoo
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To: RCW2001
In order to apologize, you have to be repentent. The only thing these Islamic bastards are repentent about is the fact that there were so many survivors.
117 posted on 06/08/2002 4:00:20 AM PDT by ZULU
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To: PsyOp;bybybill
Now wait a minute... You mean those Egyptian horse carriers you've been talking about are actually boats whose sole purpose is to carry horses?! I just assumed they were some kind of Egyptian warships named Egyptian horse carriers that fight in combat with hostile warships.
118 posted on 06/08/2002 4:16:29 AM PDT by DBtoo
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To: scotiamor
#21: I have no idea how this fits with the USS Liberty, but LBJ was the 'author' of the Gulf of Tonkin incident; a fabricated event which launched all out war in Viet Nam.

I mention this because it seems to me the average FReeper of today wasn't born in 1964...

119 posted on 06/08/2002 4:32:09 AM PDT by Jethro Tull
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To: RCW2001
Funny how every time the fascist muslims increase the level of killing against Jewish women and children in the streets of Israel, this story comes back.

We had a couple of wars with Britain that cost the lives of many, many patriots. They even put the White House to the torch! Today they are our closest friends and allies. Germany, we fought two, TWO, world wars against these people, today they our our friends. Russia, the main enemy of the USA from the end of WW2 until a few years ago, today they are our friends. We fought a horrendous war with Vietnam with the loss of 50,000 men less than 30 years ago. Today we trade with them and some vets even go back there to tour the battlefields. Why aren't you outraged about all these other countries that did a hell of a lot more damage to the US than one incident that happened years ago with Israel? It is so obvious. The only difference is the people were Jews, right? You can forget and forgive any and all people but not the Jews, right? If you are a supporter of Islamic terror, why don't you just come out and say it and quit trying to hide your hatred of Jews behind this sad story that happened long ago.

120 posted on 06/08/2002 4:54:22 AM PDT by Walkin Man
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