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To: donh
Here's the sources for Sagan/Muncaster

Creationist Site

Talk.Origin

It's brain-drizzle, not science, whether it's done by Behe or Sagan.

So Behe and Sagan have somehow less claim to scientific authority -- maybe I'll grant you Sagan -- than you? How about Hoyle? Or Crick? They've both said abiogenesis is impossible largely due to mathematical impossiblity.

What you are looking for is a miracle. You're next project should be finding the perpetual motion machine.

613 posted on 06/14/2002 8:06:52 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: Tribune7
So Behe and Sagan have somehow less claim to scientific authority -- maybe I'll grant you Sagan -- than you? How about Hoyle? Or Crick? They've both said abiogenesis is impossible largely due to mathematical impossiblity.

I hate to keep uselessly trying to burst this bubble, but no one's speculations, however couched in apparent mathematical rigor, is science. Science is a heavily co-operative enterprise that works extremely hard, extremely publicly, extremely methodically, to hammer out a current concensus about what we think is going on, based on critically designed experiments and field work--see "Nature" or "Science News" and the refereed technical journals, do NOT see random compilations of speculations no matter how august the speculator.

What you are looking for is a miracle. You're next project should be finding the perpetual motion machine.

I believe I've found one. No matter what gaping objections one points out in his vastly over-generous understanding of what science consists of--he keeps cranking out the exact same unscientific thesis under the rubric of science over and over.

Kindly supply the proof you have been ducking for 100 posts that abiogenesis could only have happened by the sudden spontaneous formation of a prokariote.

624 posted on 06/15/2002 1:13:52 PM PDT by donh
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