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To: lexcorp
There is at this time no data to suggest that there is an "outside" to the "space-time continuum." The aether was never proven not to exist, but was shown to be unnecessary for the universe to function as it did, and no data backing up the aether was found... so the aether theory was abandoned, and now physicists are within their rights to say, "The aether doesn't exist."

If you propose that such-and-such is or might be... it is up to YOU to show that it is so.

No, when it comes to what might or might not be beyond the space-time continuum, there's no scientific evidence... period.

Science only deals with what can be observed. We are unable to extend our observations beyond space-time. Science is irrelevant outside of it.

What's outside? Something or Nothing? Science is silent.

Dunno why you decided to ramble about aether, since it's not something that was suggested beyond space-time.

Is that a fact. Then YOU define what the word morality means. If we cannot agree on a basic definition of the word, then it is a pointless debate.

Morality is the objective standard by which we measure ethical behavior.

You OK with that?

Unless God is actively trying to hide evidence of his existence, there are a wide range of possibilities for finding evidence of God in the universe. Take irrational numbers, frex (such as pi). Do as Sagan suggested in "Contact" and start looking at pi at a wide range of numerical bases... God could have, if he so wanted, put a message within pi that would be incontrovertible proof of the existence of an intelligent creator of not just manking, not just the Earth, not just the Universe... but the laws that govern the way the entire universe works.

I look at the Periodic Table or the simple fact that our Universe has Laws of Physics, and I see plenty of God's handiwork. But is that scientific evidence?

No.

You appear to offer two possibilities, that either God would conceal His existence, or that He would leave incontrovertible proof of it all over the Universe. You neglect a third:

That God hides in plain sight, waiting for us to discover the obvious by what ultimately boils down to a leap of faith.

Why?

For free will.

God could have talking neon signs floating around and following us wherever we go to constantly prove His existence to us. Why bother with Carl Sagan and pi?

Yet He doesn't, because He isn't interested in puppets, which is what we would be if we were constantly bombarded with incontrovertible evidence of Him.




389 posted on 06/09/2002 1:14:49 AM PDT by Sabertooth
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