[Petronski]

Do whatever you can to see an HBO movie about the Wannsee Conference called "Conspiracy." Chilling and worth every penny.

[wvnavyvet]

"It was one of the most shocking meetings of the 20th century," So the historians are telling us. Though I believe the things done to the Jews, and others considered undesirable by the Nazis, was and still is terrible, I have trouble any more believing historians about anything. They rewrite history and alter historical facts to suit their own vanity not the preservation of history.

[Pete]

And with the rise of the far right in Europe, he felt there was an added "Lest We Forget" urgency as today's children reflect on what their grandparents may have done.

Recently, I have been looking into the American Eugenics movement in the early part of the 20th century. For example, the first state to impose "mandatory sterilization" laws was Indiana in 1907. Interestly enough, it is my understanding that the Nazi's referred to their sterilization method as the "Indiana Method". By the mid-1930's, just about every state had a "mandatory sterilization" law.

The really interesting part is that it appears the American Eugenics movement was spearheaded by the leftist intellectual elite of the day - not the right.

Finally, it has been very interesting to learn how the Nazi "final solution" did not just come out of nothing. Similar ideas had been brewing for 40 years. The Nazi's just took it to horrible, unimaginable extremes.

If you want to learn more about the American Eugenics movement, go here. However, prepare yourself. Anyone who values individualism, a non-intrusive government and freedom will likely find, as I did, American Eugenics to be disturbing and extremely offensive.

[bloodmeridian]

(not posted under philosophy)

Thank goodness for that.

[aristeides]

And with the rise of the far right in Europe, he felt there was an added "Lest We Forget" urgency as today's children reflect on what their grandparents may have done.

These idiots in the media continue to associate Nazi crimes with a European right that (apart from a very few neo-Nazis,) at worst, exhibits distaste for Jews. This at a time when Jewish lives are in more and more danger from the Islamofascists and their allies on the left.

[timydnuc]

I saw this. As a amateur historian of the Third Riech, I know this was true. If you think that this is over, you are wrong. If we get a Hillary and a leftist congress, we will be the next that will be marched off to the labor camps, and the ovens.

They have trouble there, we have weapons, and we will use them. If they can ever take our guns, they will take our lives. As always, Americans will have to...stand, and deliver!

Now....think about the second Amendment to the Consitiution of these here United States. Why do we need weapons? Against the thief/rapest/burgler/killer? Or against the goverment that would take your liberties from you, by force?

[bruin66]

What was the date of the meeting?

[LarryLied]

And with the rise of the far right in Europe, he felt there was an added "Lest We Forget" urgency as today's children reflect on what their grandparents may have done.

Disgraceful.

[ArcLight]

Last year I read volume 2 of Ian Kershaw's bio of Hitler. According to that book, the Holocaust was actually a sort of "Plan B," launched after other methods for dealing with the Jews were found to be impractical.

At first, the Nazis merely wanted to round up all the Jews and exile them to the most inhospitable lands they could find. Madagascar was considered, as well as Siberia once the Soviet Union was conquered. In practical terms this would have been little different from gassing them outright; still, simply rounding up all the Jews and murdering them turns out to have been a last resort, embraced by people who truly felt a sincere belief that the elimination of Europe's Jews was a moral duty.