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Ann Coulter: Build Them Back
Front Page Magazine ^ | June 6, 2002 | Ann Coulter

Posted on 06/06/2002 3:50:27 AM PDT by fporretto

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To: ConsistentLibertarian
My usual reply here for this clown:

The Consistent"Liberal"tarian is just that - a liberal. He also has some kind of hard-on for Ann Coulter. I think maybe she turned him down on a date for the prom or something. He shows up with his tripe on all her threads.

Anyway, if you like arguing with people who parse the meaning of words, quickly change the topic when beaten in honest debate and, in general, constantly argue in bad faith (you know, a liberal), then knock yourself out.

But in no way is this clown representative of those of us with truly libertarian feelings.

101 posted on 06/06/2002 2:57:19 PM PDT by safeasthebanks
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To: UbIwerks
I would like to see a few oil dericks drilling for oil in the place of the destroyed buildings. We are going to need the oil when we really discover who our enemies are!
102 posted on 06/06/2002 3:07:29 PM PDT by Mr. Bob
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To: OldFriend
I loved those two buildings. New York will never be the same. But the sad fact is, if we build it, they'll come.

Sure, Bin Laden's dead, but every muslim on the planet now dreams of outdoing Bin Laden's life's crowning achievement.
103 posted on 06/06/2002 3:08:59 PM PDT by Bon mots
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To: fporretto
In scrict accordance with the FR "Ann Coulter rule" here's a pic of our beloved Ann.


104 posted on 06/06/2002 3:14:16 PM PDT by ChadGore
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To: safeasthebanks
Someone must have asked you to state a premise in support of a conclusion once, and you were embarassed not to know the difference. And that's too bad. If you favor smaller, smarter government, competitive markets, free trade and the Rule of Law (ie you oppose fictitious, unwritten exceptions to the second amendment) there are really good arguments to be made for your views. Probably a Coulter thread isn't a good place to make them, but on the other hand it's safe to hang out here because the Coulter crowd won't notice and don't know what they're missing.
105 posted on 06/06/2002 3:26:52 PM PDT by ConsistentLibertarian
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To: fporretto
The first thought, as the buildings were crumpling toward the ground, was that the wrecked shards should be allowed to remain, to keep America focused on the task of going after the perpetrators. Well, the urban renewal proceeds, and since the debris is already removed, it is time to draw up something so impressive, and unimpregnable, that a slap in the face is thrown back at the Islamists and the nihilists who think this was the way to pull down America.

Sometime, far in the future, what was once the United States may be only a collection of filthy little backwater republics or fiefdoms, but we still have centuries of highly creative leadership in the affairs of mankind ahead of us. We need a bold and shining symbol, to signify the Infinite Justice of our way, and the example for all the world to follow.

106 posted on 06/06/2002 3:29:35 PM PDT by alloysteel
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To: Lazamataz
Hillary has no idea what makes New Yorkers tick. She can't step out of her "Do it for the children" role. After all, it took Hillary to ruin Arkansas education system single handedly.

What ever is built it should be magnificient and in thier face! But definately not a Hillary idea!

107 posted on 06/06/2002 4:20:09 PM PDT by wingnuts'nbolts
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To: wingnuts'nbolts
So much for Hitlery being for the children. She voted against a Kennedy bill to give more money to the children for summer school. Even Chuck the Schmuck voted for the bill.........her heinous said she was opposed to the process!!!

In other words, she couldn't figure out a way to get her hands on any of the funds........

108 posted on 06/06/2002 4:56:31 PM PDT by OldFriend
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To: MissAmericanPie
"Moreover, this argument neglects to consider that by the time a new World Trade Center is built, Arabs will be about as threatening as the Japanese. Who would have imagined after Pearl Harbor that the Japanese were governable? Yet Japan hasn't shown a disposition to fight in 60 years. It is the rare individual who does not succumb to horrendous physical pain. Muslims feel humiliated now? We'll show them humiliated."

Anyone want to bet that there will still be Arabs around to threaten the West in many years in the future? Anyone? I didn't think so. They better get their act together, or we'll do it for them. All we have to do is to launch a couple of ICBMs. That easy, yep.

109 posted on 06/06/2002 5:29:59 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: safeasthebanks
I'm not sure what his problem is, but it's his, not mine, and I shan't waste my energies on it.

I'm a small-l libertarian myself. I spent ten years trying to work within the LP, realized just in time to save my sanity that there were too many fringies and too few sensible, serious workhorses, and bailed out. These days, I'm unaffiliated -- and I find that I promote a lot more interest in the ideas of freedom if I style myself a "pro-freedom conservative."

CL is the sort of "Libertarian" who gives the rest of us a bad name. He and his like are likely to produce a net loss of interest in the freedom philosophy with their bad tempers and worse manners. Unfortunately, there's little to be done about them. Free country and all that.

Freedom, Wealth, and Peace,
Francis W. Porretto
Visit the Palace Of Reason: http://palaceofreason.com

110 posted on 06/06/2002 5:38:06 PM PDT by fporretto
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To: fporretto
"And we wonder why they don't have chairs."

Bump for the beautiful and brilliant Ann.

111 posted on 06/06/2002 6:21:36 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Zeroisanumber
OK, then hunker down, cower, and hide. Don't worry, though. Others of courage and principle will take up the slack. They always have.
112 posted on 06/06/2002 7:19:44 PM PDT by chimera
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To: fporretto
In the "Place of Reason" do they recognize bad arguments for true conclusions? If so, Ann's not going to get a friendly reception.
113 posted on 06/06/2002 7:27:02 PM PDT by ConsistentLibertarian
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To: fporretto
Dispatches From The American Front
Volume 2 Number 1
January 7, 2002

An Obligation To All
By James Benton

While ironworkers and firefighters continue to cart away the World Trade Center and the first casualties of a long war, both Michael Bloomberg, Mayor of New York and Rudy Guiliani, Mayor of America have weighed in on the reconstruction of 16 acres in lower Manhattan.

In his farewell address December 27, Guiliani envisioned "a soaring, monumental, beautiful" memorial. "And then if we do that part right," Guiliani said, "then the economic development will just happen."

Bloomberg, appearing at a January 3 press conference with John Whitehead, chairman of the Lower Manhattan Redevelopment Commission, noted Giuliani's statement, saying the commission "was appointed to look at all of the different possibilities." Both support using the site for a memorial, office space and other uses, according to the New York Times.

It was Whitehead's words which worry me. "I think there is a developing consensus - among everybody I've talked to - that it is not either practical or appropriate to build another 100-story building." (NY Times, Jan 4)

There are many reasons not to rebuild the Towers. Many say there is no practicality in anything over 80 stories tall. Others point out the attraction of a new building to terrorists. Besides, haven't you heard we're in a recession? How can we possibly ever fill all that space? And what kind of memorial will that be for those who died?

In my mind, we must rebuild the Center exactly as it was.

There is a gap in the skyline of Manhattan and in our hearts. It is the skyline gap which turns the most recognized skyline in the world into Generic City; the gap in our heart cries out to us when we least expect it, causing memories to all but overwhelm us. These gaps must be filled, and no "other uses", no mini-towers will do.

They say 100-story buildings aren't "practical" anymore. Since when is office space impractical in Manhattan, regardless of what floor it's on? Besides, with thirty-plus years of technology since the construction of the original Center, it can be rebuilt stronger and better than before. As for filling that office space, I would imagine there are many who would never set foot in a skyscraper again. I wouldn't blame them. However, for every one who can't, there will be at least one who would.

Also, two 100-story towers would eventually find tenants again, just as they have before. We have been in recessions worse than this in the past thirty years, and we didn't tear down the Towers then, did we? Rebuilding 10 million square feet of office space is a message to everyone: we expect these to fill because we expect our economy to recover and prosper again, as it has before, and we'll need the space.

Yes, the new Towers would be a tempting target, but it will take far more in the future to knock them down again. Hijacked planes won't do; there will never be another successful hijacking attempt again. The rules changed on September 11, and everyone knows it. I also believe anything larger than a pickup truck won't be able to get near the WTC without a thorough inspection. The new towers will be vulnerable - any building is - but not as much as they were. It would also serve as a message to the rest of the world: we will build great buildings because we can, because no one will dictate to us what we will and won't do, because we will not give in to our fears.

Finally, I can think of no greater monument to the dead than complete reconstruction. Who would be able to look at the Manhattan skyline, see the new towers and not remember the victims of that terrible day? I propose a few monuments at ground level: a life-size statue of the three firefighters raising the flag at a central flagpole with an eternal flame at their feet, lit from the fires which consumed the original towers, and another statue or memorial in the lobby of 2 World Trade Center, commemorating the firefighters, police officers and EMTs who died when the buildings collapsed. The largest monument would be at the top of Tower 2: the observation deck and perhaps a few floors beneath it, where all who died can be named. A place where we can see the grand city, see the last sights the victims saw before the buildings fell, and remember.

Rebuild the Towers, Mayor Bloomberg. Rebuild.

114 posted on 06/06/2002 7:38:06 PM PDT by Master Zinja
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To: MissAmericanPie
"Destroying Mecca would have a very calming effect on these backward people, take away their ju ju, and they go back to sitting on their rocks, watching the fleas nip at their ankles."

I must tell you Young Lady that I've admired your posts for quite some time now. You forced vodka/tonic up my nose again!
One Freeper's suggestion re: the redesign of a new Trade Center resembling a traditional American gesture of defiance facing Mecca also rated quite high. I just love this place.

Nam Vet

115 posted on 06/06/2002 8:09:19 PM PDT by Nam Vet
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To: fporretto
Since there would be no need for a ground breaking ceremony, we should throw a HUGE beer bash at the WTC site. Then everyone is invited to piss on Atta's grave!!!
116 posted on 06/06/2002 8:13:24 PM PDT by Young Werther
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To: Nam Vet
Thank you. =o)
117 posted on 06/06/2002 8:15:11 PM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: Nick Danger; Big Ern; Anniegetyourgun
I suggested that on another thread but didn't have the graphics. Thank you Nick Danger for making that photo of what true Americans feel right now. Hey Big Ern, I think you'll like this one! You too, Annie.
118 posted on 06/06/2002 8:26:44 PM PDT by Libertina
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To: Lazamataz
Nah, she wants to erect a monument to her favorite team - the Yankees. After all, she's been a fan all her life....hahahaha....

Or maybe a tribute to Sir Edmund Hillary who she was named after....

Or maybe a large stone dedicated to all the black churches that have been burned down in NY state.....

Okay, perhaps she could put that new 55,000 square feet of office she wants to make Sen. Chuckie feel even more inadequate....

119 posted on 06/06/2002 9:15:04 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: fporretto; Old Friend; JohnHuang2; dennisw; kattracks
Skyscrapers are the hallmark of civilization. They are monuments to [American Liberty's!] brilliance and creativity.

There have been many unsubstantiated assertions that no one would rent property in a rebuilt World Trade Center. But if fear of another terrorist attack were a major factor in New Yorkers' decisional calculus, they wouldn't be living in New York.

..... by the time a new World Trade Center is built, Arabs will be about as threatening as the Japanese. ..... It is the rare individual who does not succumb to horrendous physical pain. Muslims "feel 'humiliated?" ..... We'll show [The (1300 years of rapings, forced-female-circumcisions, lootings, pillaging, death-and-destruction worshipping, false-fuerher-following -- and still at it!) nazi bastards!] humiliated.

..... the buildings were ..... really big. There can be a new design -- BUT -- whatever goes up on that site has got to be bigger and better than the buildings the savages destroyed. Erecting enormous buildings to replace the Twin Towers limns the distinction between us and the barbarians.

We can ride elevators a quarter-mile into the sky and have dinner. What can they do?

Here in America, ordinary Americans consider 70-story buildings "mediocre."

As Donald Rumsfeld said of al-Qaeda, their specialty is "destroying things they could never have built themselves using technologies they never could have developed themselves."

Build 'em better!
Build 'em BIGGER!

120 posted on 06/07/2002 2:35:44 AM PDT by Brian Allen
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