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To: bob808
. . . obviously Palestine did not just drop out of the sky in 1948 for the Jews to move in. No matter how unorganized and sparsely inhabited it may or may not have been, the arabs there considered it theirs, and it was taken from them at the point of a gun.

Did the Arabs ever have it? Prior to 1917, for centuries, the Turks had it. Although Turks and Arabs are both Moslems, they sure don't tend to like each other. By the way, Turkish rulers spent a lot of their time in Palestine protecting the Jews from local Arabs who would from time to time massacre Jews. Although, during the last few decades of Turkish rule, Palestine's Jews finally began to arise from centuries of lethargy and arm themselves for self-defense.

The people who took Palestine from the Turks, not the Arabs, at the point of a gun, were the British, in 1917. Then the U.N. divided Palestine in 1947 between mostly Jewish areas, which were supposed to go to Israel, and mostly Arab areas, which were supposed to go to the Arabs. Palestine's Arabs have never accepted this concept, leading to everything which has happenned since then.

57 posted on 06/08/2002 5:23:30 AM PDT by Steve Eisenberg
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To: Steve Eisenberg
Was it not the British, in conjunction with various Zionist leaders, and their "Balfour Declaration" that initiated the modern day idea of establishing a Jewish state in Palestine and began the gradual process of encouraging Jewish immigration there? I wonder what the local arabs thought of Britain's generous gesture of giving sizable amounts of THEIR territory to another group?

In any case, as I've said beforee, if the argument is "we're reclaiming land that was wrongfully taken from us", that's fine, we can discuss that issue - however that's very different from the gist of this article which is basically saying that Palestine was vacant, unclaimed and freely available for Jewish settlement.

58 posted on 06/08/2002 1:03:50 PM PDT by bob808
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...And before the turks had it, the crusaders had it. So the land rightfully belongs to the crusaders...hahahaha!
66 posted on 06/11/2002 6:24:58 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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