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The same argument can be made for the American Southwest. The Atzlan movement that wants to take it back for Mexico overlooks the fact that, at the time of the Mexican American War, there were fewer than 75,000 (Mexican) people living in California, New Mexico, Arizona, Texas, and parts of Colorado, Kansas, Oklahoma and Utah. Only after the Americans had made it a prosperous, productive area, despite a lack of water, did the Mexicans renew their interest in actually living there, as opposed to claiming it as territory.

Yep. Even though I'm not in favor of the atzlan movement, I still gotta admit I see some irony in the situation.

In the frontier days, there were many many english speaking white people multiplying like rabbits and spreading accross the continent. The indians were dissapearing almost as fast as the buffalo, and mexicans were scarce too. The mexican government saw that there was no way to avoid the tidal wave of white settlers, so they cooked up a plan to "mexicanize" the white people that moved into texas. They failed, and the "alamo" was the result of their scheming.

Now the reverse is happening. White people are scarce(relatively speaking) and a tidal wave of mexican immigrants is flooding in and multiplying like rabbits. The US government is basically giving up and talking about things like "amnesty" and such. I have a bad feeling that there will be a new "alamo" and this time the mexicans will win.

The Atzlan movement that wants to take it back for Mexico overlooks the fact that, at the time of the Mexican American War, there were fewer than 75,000 (Mexican) people living in California, New Mexico, Arizona, Texas, and parts of Colorado, Kansas, Oklahoma and Utah. Only after the Americans had made it a prosperous, productive area, despite a lack of water, did the Mexicans renew their interest in actually living there, as opposed to claiming it as territory.

Make that more like 10,000. Maybe we should claim the moon since some Americans once walked on it.