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Residents Near NY Nuke Plant to Get Iodide Pills
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Posted on 06/05/2002 12:12:30 PM PDT by EggsAckley

Wednesday, June 5, 2002 Residents Near NY Nuke Plant to Get Iodide Pills WHITE PLAINS, New York (Reuters) - Amid fears nuclear power plants could be the target of terror attacks, officials plan to provide residents near the Indian Point installation, just north of New York, with potassium iodide pills to protect against any release of radioactive gases.

West Chester County officials said that beginning on Saturday the pills will be distributed on the first three Saturdays in June at three local schools.

The distribution of the pills, which were provided by the Nuclear Regulatory Commission and are known as KI, comes after federal warnings that nuclear power plants could be the targets of future attacks.

KI helps to prevent thyroid cancer in the event of a radiological emergency, officials said, by blocking the absorption of radioactive iodide, one of the gases that can be released in a nuclear accident.

The county has also stockpiled the KI pills and will distribute them to local schools on request. Forty-six pharmacies in the county have agreed to stock the pills, the Westchester County Health Department said.


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KEYWORDS: iodide; radioactivegas; thyroidcancer
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To: EggsAckley
I wonder if there have been more specific threats or if this is just more Tin Foil warnings.
21 posted on 06/05/2002 12:55:07 PM PDT by Mixer
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To: dd5339
Since radioactive iodine has a half life of 4 days you'll be covered for half of the time.

Incorrect. The fission product 131I has a half-life of eight days. You're not taking credit for decay. You want to block uptake. Once the thyroid uptake is saturated, the main effect is biological clearing time. You don't worry about radiological half-life so much if you're not taking in the material an such a way that it accumulates.

22 posted on 06/05/2002 12:56:00 PM PDT by chimera
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To: EggsAckley
The East Coast is gonna need ALOT of those iodide pills.

Check here


23 posted on 06/05/2002 1:00:15 PM PDT by AgentEcho
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To: MrNeutron1962
If it blows up I imagine you'll have to wait for your picture from the evening news, because my atoms would be spread all over southeast Georgia. But I realize that the odds of this happening are null, however in today's climate anythings possible. Afterall I never thought that any person or group could blow up the WTC either, but I was wrong.
24 posted on 06/05/2002 1:01:25 PM PDT by HELLRAISER II
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To: HELLRAISER II
I realize that there would have to be more involved than just an explosion, but if there was a meltdown there could be an explosion. Couldn't it?

In a word, no. Study up on the physics of how a nuclear explosion works. I'll give you a hint: in involves symmetric compression of a mass of fissile material that without compression is subcritical. The compression makes it a supercritical assembly - significantly so. A high-yield nuclear explosion requires this. The natural processes involved in even the worst-case meltdown scenario you can imagine simply do not have the energy necessary to attain any kind of compressive effect. Add to that the fact that commercial grade fuel has 235U enrichment on the order of 3-4%. Weapons-grade uranium has enrichment in the 99% range. Unless you postulate some kind of isotopic separation process occurring, you're not going to be able to assemble an explosively-critical mass in any kind of meltdown scenario.

25 posted on 06/05/2002 1:01:52 PM PDT by chimera
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To: chimera
Forgive my ignorance on this subject, but I am working at a credit union office inside a nuclear plant right now and thought I should find out about this stuff. We have a credit union office here and I am filling in part-time. I haven't heard any talk about KI in the New Orleans area. Is this a prescription thing, or can I just buy it off the shelf in a regular drug store?
26 posted on 06/05/2002 1:03:22 PM PDT by betsyross
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To: HELLRAISER II
I live close to the Baxley, Ga Nuke plant as well, but the question I have is what good is Iodide pills if the plant blows up. It damn sure won't protect me from a nuclear blast, Iodide pills will only help those left in the aftermath.

Is this question a joke or do I add you to my ever growing list of people who just have no idea what they are talking about?

27 posted on 06/05/2002 1:07:19 PM PDT by HoustonCurmudgeon
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To: dd5339; handk
Thanks for the valuable info. Adding it to my terrorist attack survival kit :)
28 posted on 06/05/2002 1:07:41 PM PDT by freeperfromnj
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To: chimera
So what's your occupation? How do you know all this stuff?I'm not a Tin Foil nut, but I must admit that being 30-40 miles from a Nuclear plant doesn't fill me with a feeling of safety. But on the other hand it doesn't scare me to death either, some people get way out there on a limb with some of these scenario's. One scenario that does scare me is those whacko's in India & Pakistan with their grubby little fingers on the button to Nukes.
29 posted on 06/05/2002 1:08:53 PM PDT by HELLRAISER II
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To: dd5339
Amen, I bought KI several months ago. If it can help, do you really want to rely on your local government to dispense it? The bullsh!+ starts when things get tough. Remember the Anthrax scare in Washington? All of these idiot Senators were running around taking Cipro whether or not they were exposed. Did anyone think about providing Cipro to the people in the Brentwood Post Office? The point is that when it hits the fan those in power take care of themselves. The time to get the stuff is not when everyone else is trying to get it.

If a problem never occurs what have I lost? A few bucks. If you are going to do it, buy a little extra to give to your neighbor if and when the time comes.

30 posted on 06/05/2002 1:08:55 PM PDT by Cicero5
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To: chimera
You're wasting your intelligence on HELLRAISER II.

He belongs on "Street Smarts".

31 posted on 06/05/2002 1:09:47 PM PDT by handk
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To: Dog
Good idea.....I carry mine around with me...along with asprin, allergy pills and fat burning pills.........
32 posted on 06/05/2002 1:09:47 PM PDT by geege
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To: HoustonCurmudgeon
Hopefully I won't be added to your list of nutcases, I realize that there would have to be a considerable crash, explosion & meltdown to trigger a nuclear explosion. I just don't think that Iodide pills would cut it in the event of a Nuke plant meltdown.
33 posted on 06/05/2002 1:11:04 PM PDT by HELLRAISER II
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To: EggsAckley
Better they should get some rifles and learn how to use them.
34 posted on 06/05/2002 1:11:16 PM PDT by pabianice
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To: HELLRAISER II
30 miles, thats a long way. Spending a good part of my career in 100 to 300 mr fields, you got it knocked.
35 posted on 06/05/2002 1:12:40 PM PDT by MrNeutron1962
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To: handk
And where do you belong? Gilligans Island.
36 posted on 06/05/2002 1:12:41 PM PDT by HELLRAISER II
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To: AgentEcho
That's me at the most Southwest red dot. Sure would screw up the great surfing at San Onofre. "Hey dude, where's my hair?"
37 posted on 06/05/2002 1:13:16 PM PDT by A Navy Vet
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To: phasma proeliator
...nuclear material would be dispersed over a great area and many people would suffer greatly.

Incorrect. The area of dispersion is actually quite limited. Widespread dispersion requires release of significant amounts of stored energy. Nuclear explosions produce fallout because of this. The same occurred at Chornobil, wherein the internal energy contained in the fuel drove the material out into the environment.

Additionally, widespread disperal usually occurs when there is significant vaporization of the reacting mass. The explosive materials must reach very high temperatures so its constituent atoms have tremendously high kinetic energy. They then move about the environment, losing energy and eventually plate out or condense onto other materials, far removed from the explosion site.

An event driven by an external force simply doesn't match up on these terms. Sure, you can push materials around somewhat, but in terms of blasting things far and wide, to the tune of some of these widely speculative "doomsday" scenarios involving "dirty nukes" or whatever the kooks are calling them these days, its simply not in the cards, based on the laws of mother nature.

Before you blow me off as not knowing what I am talking about, I did some of the modeling and some experiments involving release of materials from nuclear material transport accidents back when DOE was doing some of the initial transport cask design and validation. I was also a partner on a consulting job for a utility group that was looking into risk management that involved modeling of release terms and dispersion from power plant accidents. If you have any kind of reasonably accurate meteorological model that incorporates realistic transport mechanisms, it predicts quite limited dispersion.

38 posted on 06/05/2002 1:14:53 PM PDT by chimera
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To: HELLRAISER II
So what's your occupation? How do you know all this stuff?

Right now I'm an academic but have had a variety of "previous lives", nuclear industry, government work, consulting, etc. I guess 4 years of college and 5 years of graduate study and 22+ years in the business allow you to learn a few things here and there...(?)

39 posted on 06/05/2002 1:19:06 PM PDT by chimera
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To: betsyross
Forgive my ignorance on this subject, but I am working at a credit union office inside a nuclear plant right now and thought I should find out about this stuff. We have a credit union office here and I am filling in part-time. I haven't heard any talk about KI in the New Orleans area. Is this a prescription thing, or can I just buy it off the shelf in a regular drug store?

You can order 200 tablets for $21.00 from here.

For adults, the recommended dosage is 2 tablets per day for 14 days, followed by 1 tablet per day for 71 days. A total of 99 tablets per adult. Therefore, one bottle of 200 tablets would be enough for 2 adults.

Potassium iodate saturates your thyroid system, thus blocking the absorption of the bad stuff.

However, if you're Ben Affleck, you can wonder around for hours and hours in an area thick with clouds of radioactive dust and debris, swirling all about you, breathing it all in while walking and running, with no adverse impact. (See "The Sum of All Fears").


40 posted on 06/05/2002 1:19:15 PM PDT by handk
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