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We can't argue at the same time that the earth isn't warming, but by the way the reason the earth is warming is because we're coming out of the last ice age, thankfully, because we all like to eat Wisconsin cheese. Sounds like a John Edwards in a $500 suit arguing out of both sides of his mouth to a jury.

The statistics I've seen show modest warming this century, most of which occurred during the first half. Why not admit it? What problem does that cause?

I believe the atmosphere keeps us nice and warm, which is good because it gets mighty cold on Mars at night. Come to think of it, it gets mighty cold there duing the day. I accept scientists who claim CO2 warms the earth. Good. Most CO2 comes from natural sources; a very small percentage of CO2 emissions come from man-made sources. Does man-made CO2 contribute in a very small percentage to the Earth's warming? Makes sense to me. Is it problem? No.

Has science made a case that warming is bad? No. Has science made a case that the warming is due to man-made rather than natural causes? No. Has science made a case that reduction of use of fossil fuels would slow or reverse the warming? No. The report says these things and more.

The liberals have a political agenda here, a desire to use this issue to dismantle certain industries, which is where I think the debate should be focused.

I accept scientists who claim CO2 warms the earth.

I'm not convinced even of that claim. It may be true, but it stands as good a chance as not of being untrue. Charts showing earth temperature vs. sunspot activity certainly speak against the CO2 theory.

I guess I'd like to read that EPA report (keeping in mind that since the Clinton administration, anything within .gov is suspect of being a jobs program for Clinton's liberal allies rather than a department if integrity) and see just what they've come up with and how they came up with it.

The liberals have a political agenda here, a desire to use this issue to dismantle certain industries

I agree. The intent is to finish the de-industrialization of the west for the purpose of redistribution of wealth on a global scale.

which is where I think the debate should be focused.

I strongly disagree. This gives tacit agreement to the premises that (1) warming is currently occuring and (2) it is human induced.

This allows the opposition to set the terms of the debate, leaving us on the defensive. Never allow the enemy to occupy the high ground.

Regards

J.R.

We can't argue at the same time that the earth isn't warming, but by the way the reason the earth is warming is because we're coming out of the last ice age,

Incidentally, we are about due for another period of continental glaciation to start. Interestingly enough, a current hypothesis is that a precoursor might be a slight increase in temperatures resulting in more precipitation (including snow).

Regards

J.R.