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So much for the "glorious Muslim civilization"! I guess their contributions will remain limited to suicide bombers.

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1 posted on 06/05/2002 9:35:44 AM PDT by MaxwellWolf
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To: MaxwellWolf
What is the Capital of Assyria?
2 posted on 06/05/2002 9:51:33 AM PDT by El Sordo
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To: MaxwellWolf
Assimilation is the core of muslim achievement. Conquer a people, then claim their achievements as muslim. Whatever the Greeks, Assyrians, Babylonians and other accomplished ancients discovered, was appropriated by these savages.
3 posted on 06/05/2002 9:51:47 AM PDT by aristotleman
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To: MaxwellWolf
I majored in Middle Eastern history about twenty five years ago and as far as I can recall those studies, everything cited in this article is 100 % correct. The emphasis on Assyrian culture is understandable as it is the author's own, and inclusion of the contributions of the countless other minorities which were (barely) tolerated under Islamic rule would fill volumes. I know of no culture that is now Islamic which was not "converted" at the point of a sword.
5 posted on 06/05/2002 9:52:23 AM PDT by katana
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To: MaxwellWolf
I thought the arab contribution was as keepers of knowledge through the dark ages? Not that I expect to get a straight answer to that question on FR...
6 posted on 06/05/2002 9:55:39 AM PDT by NC_Libertarian
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To: Thinkin' Gal; 2sheep; Prodigal Daughter
Suleiman the gangsta bump...
9 posted on 06/05/2002 10:03:43 AM PDT by Jeremiah Jr
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To: MaxwellWolf
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12 posted on 06/05/2002 10:09:37 AM PDT by Stand Watch Listen
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To: MaxwellWolf
Bump. Very interesting read. Thanks for pointing me to this article.
13 posted on 06/05/2002 10:10:37 AM PDT by agrace
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To: MaxwellWolf
The real, aching irony is that what we really got from Arab civilization was, of all things, religious tolerance. Hard to believe when viewing contemporary Islamic theocracies, but it's a fact. They were the only ones to manage multiple religions in the same area without extensive bloodshed, even the Romans couldn't manage that.

It was this that enabled the Arabic component of Islam to survive the Turkish takeover of the secular government functions - they maintained the caliphate, the religious end, and gave the sultanate, the governing part, to the Turks. When the Turks withdrew from imperial government and went secular in 1917, all that was left was the religious end, which had been effectively disempowered for half a millennium. It is for this reason that current Arabic governments do not display the tolerant characteristics they did in the beginning if Islam, and why religious fervor has taken on a new stridency in the Arab world. Islam misses its secular counterweight - it misses the Turks.

15 posted on 06/05/2002 10:14:56 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: MaxwellWolf
It really could be argued that Arab Civilization ended with Islam...just look at the history before Mohammad: Babylon, Egypt, Ur, Asyria, Hittite kingdoms--the list is endless. About the only thing Islam has going for it is Saladin and Suliman...
16 posted on 06/05/2002 10:15:35 AM PDT by meandog
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To: MaxwellWolf
bump
18 posted on 06/05/2002 10:17:05 AM PDT by VOA
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To: MaxwellWolf
What in the CEO mind makes it seem like a good idea to give expression to such silliness?
19 posted on 06/05/2002 10:18:42 AM PDT by Dialup Llama
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To: MaxwellWolf
There's a message here. Carly Fiorina should have more pressing problems than promoting "diversity". Remind me to avoid any investments in HP/Compaq.
23 posted on 06/05/2002 10:25:13 AM PDT by TheMole
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To: MaxwellWolf
I'm betting that the Assyrians had a loose immigration policy and failed to profile.
24 posted on 06/05/2002 10:27:44 AM PDT by TADSLOS
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To: *Clash of Civilizatio
Indexing.
27 posted on 06/05/2002 10:47:15 AM PDT by denydenydeny
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To: MaxwellWolf
The Arabs, like the Romans, pretty much lived on the intellectual capital of their subject peoples.
30 posted on 06/05/2002 11:25:43 AM PDT by steve-b
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To: MaxwellWolf
Arab/Muslim civilization has been a disaster. Just imagine communism lasting for 1400 years, not for 72.
32 posted on 06/05/2002 12:13:01 PM PDT by Kermit
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To: MaxwellWolf
Great info, especially about the Ottomans. It is no wonder that now in Turkey the government controls what form is Islam is being preached. They know from their history what radical Muslims can do to other people.
37 posted on 06/05/2002 12:32:42 PM PDT by Andy from Beaverton
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To: MaxwellWolf
Thank you for posting this valuable letter from an outspoken Assyrian.

I think it is important that this information gets circulated as widely as possible. It can help to dispel the mistaken notion that the conflicts in the Middle East are all about Arab vs. Jew.

The truth is, Arabs and their ideology of Islam are conquerors and oppressors, and the oppression continues to this day. If you step back from the current terror war being waged against Israel and look at the past 1400 years, you will find that Christians have actually suffered much more hardship under the Muslims than the Jews.

Of course, the honey-tongued propaganda shills for Islam gloss over this fact. They are trying hard to convince Christians that they have much more in common with Muslims than with Jews. Don't believe them!

Here is another excellent account by an Assyrian of the persecution of the indigenous peoples of the Mideast by Islam.

If a genie appeared before me and told me I had a wish to make, it would be for a coalition of Eastern Christians, Western Christians and Jews to counteract the massive onslaught of Islam.

39 posted on 06/05/2002 2:54:15 PM PDT by tictoc
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To: MaxwellWolf
Bump for VSOB Day.
42 posted on 06/05/2002 7:14:03 PM PDT by SevenDaysInMay
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