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Bishops to Defrock Pedophiles?
The Washington Times ^ | 06/05/02 | Uwe Siemon-Netto

Posted on 06/05/2002 3:06:27 AM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity

Edited on 07/12/2004 3:38:34 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

SAN DIEGO, June 4 (UPI) -- The Vatican will be asked to defrock any American priest who has sexually abused a minor, according to a draft document released Tuesday in Washington by the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops.

The UCCB members will vote on this Draft Charter for the Protection of Children and Young People at their extraordinary meeting in Dallas June 13-15. The proposal drawn up by the Conference's Ad Hoc Committee on Sexual Abuse amounts to "zero tolerance" in all future cases.


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TOPICS: Breaking News; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: catholicchurch; christianity; homosexuality; pedophiles; religion; sexabuse
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1 posted on 06/05/2002 3:06:27 AM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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http://www.weeklystandard.com article

2 posted on 06/05/2002 3:14:47 AM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
The rot grows from the head down. When are we going to defrock the cardinals? Particularly, Bernard Law. It's not so surprising that the majority Democrat Catholic (how can any real Catholic be pro-abortion?) self-names approve of homosexual, and this is truly a problem of homosexuality, priests. Give me orthodox, a la Philadelphian Catholic bureaucracy any day!
3 posted on 06/05/2002 3:36:43 AM PDT by SouthCarolinaKit
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To: SouthCarolinaKit
Apparently, the foul odor of sodomy is starting to irritate (visibly) some purple and scarlet noses - only AFTER nearly hundreds of millions in settlements and at least one shooting...

Dismissal Of Abusive Priests Is Proposed Catholic Bishops' Draft Policy Offers Exception

By a Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, June 5, 2002; Page A01

A committee of Roman Catholic bishops recommended yesterday the defrocking of any priest who sexually abuses children in the future but left open the possibility that some past offenders could remain in the priesthood.

The eight-member committee voted to allow the retention of priests who have committed a single offense, have undergone psychological treatment and have not been diagnosed as pedophiles. But Archbishop Harry J. Flynn of St. Paul and Minneapolis, the chairman, acknowledged that the committee was deeply divided over the issue. He predicted that there will be "a lot of debate" over the recommendation when the nation's approximately 300 active Catholic bishops vote on the policy at a pivotal meeting in Dallas next week.

...Cardinal William H. Keeler of Baltimore said he will push for a "zero tolerance" policy requiring the complete dismissal of any priest who has committed even just one known sexual offense against a minor. "At our meeting in Dallas, I shall advocate a policy that says that one offense is one too many," he said...

Full Story: http://www.washingtonpost.com

4 posted on 06/05/2002 3:54:27 AM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
The Church has already come under another attack for this policy. It's the leniency for past abusers, which is pretty much the same game as before. One wonders if this is just lip service or if the Church is really going to cure the problem.
5 posted on 06/05/2002 4:02:42 AM PDT by Angelique
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
Draft: Charter for the Protection of Children and Young People

Preamble

"Our beloved Church is experiencing a crisis without precedent in our times. From the depths of our hearts, we express great sorrow and profound regret for what the Catholic people have had to endure. The sexual abuse of children and young people by some priests and bishops, and the ways in which these crimes and sins were too often dealt with by bishops, have caused enormous pain, anger, and confusion. They have strained the bonds of trust that should unite us.

We, who have been given the responsibility of shepherding God's people, will, with God's help, continue to work to restore these bonds. Words alone cannot do it. It will result from the actions we take here in our General Assembly and at home in our dioceses.

The damage caused by sexual abuse is devastating and long-lasting. We are profoundly sorry for the times when we have deepened its pain by what we have done or by what we have failed to do. We reach out to those who suffer. We apologize to them and offer our help for the future. In such a matter, healing and reconciliation seem almost beyond human capacity. We dare to speak of these things only because of the hope, inspired by the Lord, that "for God, all things are possible" (Mt. 19.26).

The loss of trust becomes even more tragic when its consequence is a loss of the faith, which it is our sacred duty to foster. We make our own the words of our Holy Father that sexual abuse of young people is "by every standard wrong and rightly considered a crime by society; it is also an appalling sin in the eyes of God" (Pope John Paul II, Address to the Cardinals of the United States and Conference Officers, April 23, 2002).

Let there now be no doubt or confusion on anyone's part: For us, your bishops, our obligation to protect children and young people and to prevent sexual abuse flows from the mission and example given to us by Jesus Christ himself, in whose name we serve.

Jesus showed constant care for the vulnerable. He inaugurated his ministry with these words of the Prophet Isaiah:

The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he has anointed me to bring glad tidings to the poor. He sent me to proclaim liberty to captives and recovery of sight to the blind, to let the oppressed go free, and to proclaim a year acceptable to the Lord.

In Matthew 25, the Lord made this part of his commission to his apostles and disciples when he told them that whenever they showed mercy and compassion to the least ones, they showed it to him.

This care Jesus extended in a tender and urgent way to children, rebuking his disciples for keeping them away from him: "Let the children come to me…" (Mt.19.14). And he uttered the grave warning about those who would lead the little ones astray, saying that it would be better for such a person "to have a great millstone hung around his neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea" (Mt. 18.6).

We hear these words of the Lord as prophetic for this moment. With a firm intention to resolve this crisis, we Bishops commit ourselves to a pastoral outreach to repair the breach with those who have suffered sexual abuse. We renew our determination to provide safety and protection for children and young people in our church ministries and institutions. We pledge ourselves to act in a way that manifests the accountability we have to God's people and to one another in this grave matter; and we commit ourselves to reaching out to heal the trauma that victim/survivors and their families are suffering and the wound that the whole Church is experiencing. We acknowledge our need to be in dialogue with all Catholics, especially victims and parents, around this issue.

To fulfill these goals, our dioceses and our national conference will adopt and implement policies based upon the following:"...

(Full Text of Draft): http://www.usccb.org/bishops/charter.htm

6 posted on 06/05/2002 4:05:22 AM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: Angelique
I think there is at least a small but widening crack opening among the red carpet set. If you take a look at the grim, Adam's-Apple-gulping photos of Cardinal Keeler being featured in some recent papers, it certainly looks like he has been chastened by the shooting of the homosexual priest, embarrassed by the media coverage and criticism, and slowly coming around to the realization that the tolerance of sodomy by liberal Catholics is destroying what's left of the Church in North America and has to be stopped or they risk letting the rising tide of hysteria, depravity, and moral failure within the Church to turn it and them into posterboards for homosexual vice and sodomite rape. If just being faithful to Christ and the Church was not enough, maybe aversion to being laughed at and ridiculed will be. Someone in authority has to stand up and stop the Church in America from being a homosexual brothel.
7 posted on 06/05/2002 4:15:41 AM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: Angelique
Like, here, for instance: AP photo of Cardinal Keeler next to article

(not exactly laughing his way to the bank yesterday)

8 posted on 06/05/2002 4:26:34 AM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
hmmm...why did the statement stop with the sexual abuse of a "minor"? Why didn't it specify all sexual abuse or aberrant sex?

Probably didn't want to upset what seems to have become the "core" constituency.

9 posted on 06/05/2002 4:27:59 AM PDT by evad
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
First, not one single second chance-ever. If it happened last week, or twenty years ago. To equate an old event of criminal behavior and abuse of power by the person of entrusted authority as a condition worthy of a second chance as God, in His power and because of His Son, affords us is irrelevant. These men may or may not be forgiven of their sins, it is not ours or the Bishops to say, but they themselves have relinquished any claim to a position of authority by their crime. They have no right to office in the public square, and have been sidelined by their own behavior irregardless of the condition of their soul, which only God can know.

Second, I want to have the names tendered of the miscreant Bishops who stonewalled and covered while squandering our largess--which could have fixed dilapidated schools, built new ones, spared the sale of important land which could have housed orphanages for the babies born saved from abortion because of the aggresively pro-life ministries fostered by the Bishops, oh, right, that didn't happen. They need to leave, those who are especially egregious can be the first.

Third, I will not contribute one more nickel to William Donohue if he is going to make one more sound about being comfy and cozy with this outrage. I had called his office in tears imploring him to use his good office to advocate for change and his secretary said that that was not what the Catholic League is about. Well if it IS about that I do not want to hear one word about this draft being acceptable so long as there is any kind of a qualifier for these obscene, demonic beasts, prancing about in clerical garb. Vade Retro, beasts. V's wife.

10 posted on 06/05/2002 4:30:50 AM PDT by ventana
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
-- and has been clean ever since --

Translation: hasn't been caught

11 posted on 06/05/2002 4:31:21 AM PDT by evad
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
G. Gordan Liddy keeps repeating that most of the victims are teenage boys. That sounds more like the work of homosexuals than pedophiles. With all the homosexual priests, unless they are forbidden to be alone with these young men, the same way teachers and doctors are forbidden to be alone with young women, the problem will return.
12 posted on 06/05/2002 4:32:16 AM PDT by elfman2
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
It won't happen. Just read an article from startribune.com, the Minneapolis paper, where it stated that a lot of American bishops, and at least one foreign cardinal, want to back off from the zero tolerance policy.

This issue, like many othe issues in our society, will not be resolved for another 20 years, when all of the liberal hippie freaks finally die off or are out of power. Until then, do our best for damage control. After that, should see our society/culture becoming more conservative again.

13 posted on 06/05/2002 4:32:21 AM PDT by GreatOne
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
I guess the Vatican is hell-bent on sweeping itself under the rug, and out of existence.
14 posted on 06/05/2002 4:33:19 AM PDT by ctonious
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To: ventana
re:"not one single second chance-ever"

Right. They can receive forgiveness and absolution (if they seek it)in the laicized state after being defrocked.

15 posted on 06/05/2002 4:33:41 AM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: SouthCarolinaKit
The weather reporter on the news here in LA yesterday was discussing this issue with the news man. She said "Even if you are a pedophile at a 7-11 you don't get one free pass. You get punished. Why is it the clergy gets one free pass to molest a six year old boy?"

I'm not Catholic, but if I were, I would be changing to a different denomination now. I left Baptist for Lutheran, when my Baptist church wasn't making sense back in 1972. Recently we left Missouri Synod Lutheran Church and went to another Synod. Sometimes the church leaves you. I think the Catholic church is doing this now to its good members.

16 posted on 06/05/2002 4:34:14 AM PDT by buffyt
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To: GreatOne
Banking on an AIDS windfall for orthodoxy in the second half of the 21st century? Good point.

Deo gratias.

17 posted on 06/05/2002 4:35:21 AM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: buffyt
For those of us who are in the conservative and traditional orthodox (i.e., heterosexual) sense, it certainly gives the phrase "we're not going to take this lying down" a rather unfortunate twist (the way things have been going lately).
18 posted on 06/05/2002 4:38:01 AM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: Tomorrows_Dream
Can't speak for Boston. I addressed the issue in a formal and heated complaint to a senior and ranking Catholic clergyman in 1983. If you missed it, Crisis magazine ran an article on this last Fall. They were complaining AND protesting. The conservative movement within the Catholic Church in America has been making a lot of noise on this and related topics for over twenty years. Pat Buchanan, Robert Dornan, Alan Keyes, and Bill O'Reilly (all Catholic conservatives) have rattled the cage on the subject on national TV. O'Reilly has been calling for Cardinal Law to resign for months.
20 posted on 06/05/2002 4:48:46 AM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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