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I have to tell you something hilarious i saw yesternight! I was passing the wee hours of the morning lurking in this tatty Pakistani Defence forum, and seeing what those folk have to say about current events. That is when i bumped into this particular thread that dealt with whether or not the Chinese airforce (PLAAF) could beat the USAF. Well, these Pakistanis for some reason thought that the Chinese could beat the US airforce (haha), and vanquish it completely (double haha). They claimed Chinese J-10s would take care of everything the US had to throw at it (which is hilarious since the J-10 is still in its pre-production stage, and most of the Chinese airforce is antiquated eg Mig-19s, Mig-21s etc). Against F-15s with Slammers and F-14s with Phoenixs. Hmmm.

However that was not the funny part

The joke came when this chap decided to interject and post a question about the matchup between the Pakistani airforce and the USAF! Yep, you heard me right. Pakistani jets versus American raptors!

Well, people started posting left right and center; and the gist fo the discussion was that due to the Pakistani's 'superior pilot training' they would win the Americans.

Ok, lets look at this. The best plane the Pakistanis have is the F-16A. And this version was sold to them by the US in a manner that was meant to minimize high tech. Hence the F-16s sold to them could only carry SideWinders (they could not even carry sparrows) and had no BVR capability. The rest of their planes are just peices of flying junk.

And they expect these laughable museum artifacts to tango with AMRAAMS and Phoenixs that can shoot them while they are still in Pakistani airspace?

And India has Su-30s and enhanced Mig-29s (not the monkey models that Iraq had during the gulf war), and some of India's frontline jets have RAM coatings that reduce Radar signature by 70%, making them stealthy and a nightmare for Pakistan. And the sukhois with their R-77 AMRAAM-ski just makes matters worse for the Pakistanis.

Now, if the Pakistanis cannot face stealthy Su-30MKIs that can shoot them down 80 miles away, how are they to face a true Stealth aircraft like US has. B2s will be dropping JDAMs on Lahore and Karachi before they can pray to Allah thrice.

It is just a sign of how pathetic these folk are. They cannot even match India's military might, especially in the air, and now they expect to be able to best the USAF! Talk about picking a fight with a rabid dog, and then deciding to leave that fray and enter into a scrap with a rabid BEAR!

At this rate the Pakistanis will be saying they can face the USAF, the RAF, the Russians and the French combined! Although in second thought they may actually be able to beat the French. :D

I hear the reason the French built the Rafale manouevrable fighter was to have a fast jet to exit the theater of war with. And expensice escape pod! Haha.

However a bigger haha for the Pakistanis if they think their measely lil' airforce can best massed F-15s firing salvos of AMRAAMS with Orions and Hawkeyes flying as information linkages! It would be suicide.

However remember the mantra of the Muslim: With aLLAH anything is possible!