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To: swarthyguy
I read somewhere (groan, maybe it was in DEBKA) that the US troops/CIA in Pakistan have plans to sieze Pakistan's nuclear weapons in the event they try to use them. How difficult or possible is this?

Also, aside from punitive raids against terrorism into Kashmir, would it really be possible or beneficial for India to try to destroy Pakistan? Is it possible that India might start out with a punitive raid but have a more far-reaching campaign in its back pocket if things get really hairy?

If India and Pakistan go into a nuclear conflict, and lose 20 million per side, does that really change their relationship to the United States that much? Pakistan can't blame us because we didn't start or create India's enmity for them. India can't blame us because we didn't support the Pakistani nuclear program.

If nuclear war occurs, and the market goes down 20%, I'm probably going to be in there buying with both fists. Heck, I might even buy one of the India stock funds like the India Fund or the India Growth Fund. I can't buy the Pakistan Investment Fund anymore, it was liquidated.

46 posted on 06/04/2002 8:55:04 PM PDT by ReveBM
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To: ReveBM
Hope the plans are in place. India's already backing down anyway, from US pressure and the fear of a nuclear holocaust. The jihadis will resume attacks after a short break and the 'cycle of violence' will continue.

Perhaps you should look into jihadi futures; they look very promising.

49 posted on 06/04/2002 9:06:41 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: ReveBM
I read somewhere (groan, maybe it was in DEBKA) that the US troops/CIA in Pakistan have plans to sieze Pakistan's nuclear weapons in the event they try to use them. How difficult or possible is this?

I wish that was the case. Sadly the men of US (or any other special forces from the Brit SAS to the Israeli Sayeret to the Russian Spetsnaz) are this: amazing people who are braver than most humans can comprehend, and are highly skilled technicians who can accomplish that which is normally not possible in a largely unorthodox manner.

Sadly however, they are not supermen!

Getting into Pakistan (even a nuked Pakistan) would be a logistical nightmare, and the operationw ould be rife with dead US soldiers. Also, and this is actually more important, Pakistan has set up a myriad of mobile launchers and secret launch sites in a bid to hide their nukes from the Indian RAW and the Israeli Mossad intelligence services. And they have accomplished that! I doubt our US services are that much better than those (especially when you consider Israel and India face the threat of 9-11+ every single day, ranging from Katushya rocket attacks from Lebanon into Israel to ISI funded Kashmiri extremists into India).

Also the US intelligence service was fooled in 1998 by the Indians who had been tracking our spy satellites and making us think their nuke test sites were agro-farms! Remember, without good intelligence even the best spec-ops soldier is for naught! He can still be shot, wounded and even killed.

Think Somalia, although we killed over a thousand of them we still suffered an effective ambush and many American dead. All due to bad intelligence and complacency. A similar example occured in Afghanistan when some of our spec-ops were ambushed due to poor intelligence, and several men died.

Now imagine for a moment what a foray deep into Pakistan would entail for a band of men, especially when they have to infiltrate hostile territory, ferret out mobile launchers and hidden IRBMs, and either dismantle them or blow them sky high. The very thought itself is prohibitive.

You need honed intelligence. And even with that i really do not think it is possible to take down ALL of the Pakistani nukes. And remember this.... you only need one low yield kiloton device set off in a place like WallStreet to put the US in an economic tailspin that it would probably never recover fully from.

And all that these terrorists want is just one bomb. Not an arsenal. And i think in the event of a defeat the Pakistani ISI would be willing to provide that one nuke as an end-game strategy.

Whihc is why i hope that you belief is correct. That our men are supermen. Sadly i believe they are not supermen.... just super-trained men. And to get rid of Pakistani nukes we would need an actual ubermensch, a true superman!

Hence the answers to your question. Is it possible: yes, however so improbable are the chances of success that it might as well be totally impossible. Is it difficult: So difficult it brings a new meaning to the word!

68 posted on 06/04/2002 11:33:48 PM PDT by spetznaz
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