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President does the right thing (dismissed global warming report)Rush Limbaugh
rushlimbaugh ^ | 6/4/2002 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 06/04/2002 7:14:24 PM PDT by TLBSHOW

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To: Texasforever
Ashcroft literally begged congress for the power to fire incompetents at the INS and the congress in effect told him to Pi$$ up a rope. If that does not change and change soon then NOTHING an elected official does or says will have any effect whatsoever.

Why does Congress have that authority? They are only empowered to fund the activities of agencies ... why can't the Executive Officer hire and fire his employees at will? The bureaucrats work in the org chart under the President, not the Senate Majority Leader. Reagan fired the Air Traffic Controllers. Linda Tripp was fired. Clinton fired the Travel staff, he fired 50 something Federal Attornies, many RTC staff and investigators, etc. etc.

221 posted on 06/05/2002 2:03:43 AM PDT by ArneFufkin
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To: clintonh8r
Who, in this current adminstration, runs the EPA?

Obviously not Bush.

222 posted on 06/05/2002 2:16:56 AM PDT by Rudder
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To: vic heller
What frigging economy doesn't W want to damage? Thank God I put my money in shorts and gold long ago. Y'all better put your 401Ks into money markets asap. This economy isn't getting better anytime soon. The Japs have already pulled out of the US markets for the most part and placed their funds in gold.

Yeah, putting your money into shorting stocks is not jeopardizing your family in any way. Gold is fine ... but 10 years ago the Dow was about 2800 and the Nasdaq was about 600. Even after ALL this give back, it's still a tripling of your money in one decade. What was Gold's price per ounce in 1992?

Investing in companies like 3M, IBM, Johnson & Johnson, WalMart, Kroger, HomeDepot and Phillip Morris will always be smart. MyStinkyBum.com was dealt with. The companies that grew off of the ridiculous IPO proceeds of MyStinkyBum.com (Cisco, JDSU, Global Crossing, Razorfish, Schwab, Yahoo, Akami, Qwest) are being dealt with. People are still buying diapers, underwear and laundry detergent at Target. They're still buying cereal from General Mills, burgers at McDonalds, laundry detergent from P&G and twelve packs of Coca Cola. They're buying cigarettes, clothing, televisions, band aids, ketchup, soap, prescription drugs, CDs, paper towels, light bulbs, movie rentals and dog food. They use credit cards, take out mortgages and buy insurance. I invest in those companies, and I'm doing fine.

223 posted on 06/05/2002 2:30:16 AM PDT by ArneFufkin
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To: Rudder
Obviously not Bush.

Christine Todd Whitman "runs" the EPA as the top administrative manager. She reports to George W. Bush.

It's like asking ... who "runs" GE? Who "runs" Dell Computers. Hundreds of thousands of GE and Dell employees accross the world do. The Chairman of the Board and the Directors represent the ownership and manage the CEO, the CEO is the executive officer who manages the operations of the entity. The head of GE Capital "runs" the financial arm, the head of GE Engines manages that division, the President of NBC runs that group, and the the head of Light Bulbs runs the light bulb operations. They report to a Chief Operating Officer. The Chief Financial Officer "runs" the financial and accounting groups. The Chief Administrative Officer runs the human resource, investor relations, regulatory and legal staff. The COO, CFO, CAO and International guy report directly to Jack Welch or his successor. He reports to the Board. The Board serve at the pleasure of the investors.

If Michael Dell "runs" Dell Computers, or Bill Gates "runs" Microsoft, then George W. Bush "runs" the EPA. That's not how complex managed organizations work though, eh?

But for purposes of FR debate, let's just say it's all George W. Bush's personal fault. K.I.S.S.

224 posted on 06/05/2002 3:03:10 AM PDT by ArneFufkin
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To: ArneFufkin
Bush should take the blame if he allows this report and those who released it to go unchallenged. That the CEO does not micromanage is well-understood. But when a significant gaffe like this occurs, it's the CEO's job to clean house.

I sure hope Bush had the foresight to get Whitman's letter of resignation before she was appointed to the EPA.

225 posted on 06/05/2002 3:17:59 AM PDT by Rudder
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To: Rudder
It's not a significant gaffe. Agency studies are commissioned, studies are completed, and studies are released to the press. They have to be.

The results of a study commissioned by any Agency has no bearing whatsoever on the policy or legislative agenda of the Administration. Whitman couldn't kill that thing, it was leaked to the NYT before she probably knew that it existed. Big deal.

226 posted on 06/05/2002 3:26:24 AM PDT by ArneFufkin
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To: ArneFufkin
I agree with the Wall Street Journal's take on this:

"White House now says it hasn't changed its position. EPA boss Christie Whitman sure has a knack for blind-siding her boss; someone should inform her that Al Gore lost the election."

227 posted on 06/05/2002 4:04:47 AM PDT by Rudder
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To: TLBSHOW
Well, maybe the president should have forcefully rejected the report. Then, since he IS the Chief Executive and these people supposedly work for him, maybe he should have a come-to-Jesus with the folks at the EPA, and enlighten some of them to other career options. Or would that be too decisive, too Republican to ask of a Republican president?
228 posted on 06/05/2002 5:21:31 AM PDT by IronJack
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To: marajade
I disagree with on the steel tariffs. He campaigned in WV that he would do it and he did it. He kept a campaign promise. Isn't that the principled thing to do? I mean Clinton promised he would it too and he didn't. See the difference?

A liberal policy is a liberal policy whether it's advocated by a "conservative" or a liberal.

229 posted on 06/05/2002 6:48:32 AM PDT by cruiserman
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To: billybudd
Several points...

1. The spell checker police are nit wits.

2. I did NOT mis-spell any words. I did miss getting one letter in my haste. Technically this is a mis-spell but it is more indicative of my poor tying abilities than of my intelligence.

3. Interesting you did not have an intelligent rebuttal to my accusations.

4. I never defended Rush. Why the animosity? I call stupidity on the carpet when I see it and I saw lots in this thread. Why?

230 posted on 06/05/2002 6:49:20 AM PDT by smoking camels
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To: Howlin
And exactly what did I say to indicate I was dumb?
231 posted on 06/05/2002 6:56:15 AM PDT by smoking camels
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To: TLBSHOW
Do you want the exact coordinates?

Seriously, which posts or posts offended you? And did I do anything except call a pig a pig when I saw it? Notice I did NOT defend Rush. I do not listen to him more than a few minutes a week. I personally do not like him. But that does not change the fact that the posters I responded to were full of bull crap.

232 posted on 06/05/2002 6:56:19 AM PDT by smoking camels
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To: smoking camels
Didja like the missed letter in this one too? LOL
233 posted on 06/05/2002 7:04:37 AM PDT by smoking camels
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To: Rudder
"Who in this current administration run the EPA? Obviously not Bush."

Well, the definitive RINO, Christine Todd Whitman oversees it -- I guess when she's not on the ski slopes of Switzerland...

As for "running" the country (and world for that matter), I was under the impression all major decisions still have to be rubber-stamped by the Bilderbergers, the CFR, the Trilateral Commission.

234 posted on 06/05/2002 8:07:52 AM PDT by F16Fighter
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To: F16Fighter
Limbaugh shot off his mouth before he had all the facts. He followed Drudge and the NYT right off the cliff. Now he covers by invoking his supposed White House contacts so we'll all be impressed. Maybe he should do more talking about golf and cigars. Rush's loyalty is to himself. Period.
235 posted on 06/05/2002 9:36:44 AM PDT by clintonh8r
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To: F16Fighter
For the record, nowhere in my post did I defend the president's actions. He screwed up, but Limbaugh made a fool of himself. Maybe he should do more of his own research and depend a little less on Matt Drudge.
236 posted on 06/05/2002 9:47:48 AM PDT by clintonh8r
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To: clintonh8r
God forbid all of us at FR should "shoot" our mouths off before we have the "facts." Your kind would have been on that "send Patton back stateside" bandwagon after he slapped that kid...

Would anybody care to refute the fact that NO ONE has done more to rally the conservative cause in the last ten years or so than has Rush Limbaugh?

237 posted on 06/05/2002 9:55:03 AM PDT by F16Fighter
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To: F16Fighter
Your kind?

Has Limbaugh been selling KoolAid on his web site?

238 posted on 06/05/2002 9:57:35 AM PDT by clintonh8r
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To: F16Fighter
And the person who has done more in the last 10 years or so to rally the conservative cause is......
239 posted on 06/05/2002 10:13:31 AM PDT by clintonh8r
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To: clintonh8r
....WILLIAM JEFFERSON CLINTON
240 posted on 06/05/2002 10:14:04 AM PDT by clintonh8r
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