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To: Chemist_Geek
I think I start to be pretty clear on all that- I just aint connecting the dots on where soccer entered the picture. Like I said- I had never heard the term "soccer mom" when I left, and soccer wasn't that popular either. It still would've been Little League baseball. How did this demographic group sieze upon soccer as their sport du jour?

It just seems to me that it would have required some form of coordination and promotion to have become (apparantly) a fact of life in 10 short years. I mean one or two families here and there aren't really enough to put together a youth soccer league. The idea came from somewhere and was promoted- there had to be enough people interested in such a thing to have created soccer leagues with teams and uniforms. And that interest would have had to cancel out Little League Baseball (presumedly- hence the term soccer mom). Who first coined this phrase? When do you remember first hearing it?

402 posted on 06/05/2002 9:24:36 AM PDT by Prodigal Son
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To: GulliverSwift
Well, U.S. won. I don't think it's an upset. They scored THREE points and the other guys didn't.

Whew, they won 3-2. No wonder everyone fights in the stands, it's the only way to make the game interesting.

During a basketball game, for example, there's always something going on (unless it's a blowout). Something important is always happening.

In soccer, though, you can bash a beer bottle over the head of the guy beside you, push the fatty in front of you, and head butt the German behind you, and still nothing will have happened during the game. A guy can knee you in the back, a boy can throw soda at you, and the score will still be 1-2. After 45 minutes of getting your @$% kicked, you decide to look up to see how the game's doing, it's 1-2.

So I guess I don't blame them for fighting. It's the Europeans' way of compensation, kind of like viagra.

404 posted on 06/05/2002 10:35:57 AM PDT by GulliverSwift
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To: Prodigal Son

I think I start to be pretty clear on all that- I just aint connecting the dots on where soccer entered the picture. Like I said- I had never heard the term "soccer mom" when I left, and soccer wasn't that popular either. It still would've been Little League baseball. How did this demographic group sieze upon soccer as their sport du jour?

It just seems to me that it would have required some form of coordination and promotion to have become (apparantly) a fact of life in 10 short years. I mean one or two families here and there aren't really enough to put together a youth soccer league. The idea came from somewhere and was promoted- there had to be enough people interested in such a thing to have created soccer leagues with teams and uniforms. And that interest would have had to cancel out Little League Baseball (presumedly- hence the term soccer mom). Who first coined this phrase? When do you remember first hearing it?

One other thing - soccer moms used to all drive minivans, and a lot still do. They're behind the big popularity rise of the SUV, though.

Well, to be honest, I don't know why they settled upon soccer, or why it happened all of a sudden. I started to hear the term bandied about shortly before the four-year mark of the Late Great Unpleasantness.

My hypothesis is that this generation of women are the first to really be the result of full post-1960s upbringing. I mean, they were schooled from the mid 1970's onward, when the liberal-social-engineer educrats had finally had their hand fully on the tiller, so to speak.

I also hypothesize that they settled upon "soccer" because it didn't already have a tradition built around it, and they could make it androgynous, "safe," non-competitive (trophies for everyone), etc. Most other children's sports in America already have a tradition built up, and breaking the old traditions then re-casting it in their squishy mold would be met with too much resistance. (Especially in ice hockey or American football, but I digress...) So, soccer was promoted to young mothers as this wonderful sport, and they enrolled their children and demanded school soccer teams and so forth. The pre-existing soccer professionals were likely to have been floored by this attention, and just so happy to have someone to coach that they didn't see the social implications.

407 posted on 06/05/2002 2:14:54 PM PDT by Chemist_Geek
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To: Prodigal Son
I think first became an issue in 1992 in the Bill Clinton/Bush Sr. election.

Soccer was chosen mainly because it is non violent and non-threatening to women.

415 posted on 06/06/2002 2:42:27 PM PDT by codebreaker
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