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Al Qaeda's Wet Dream - One Term
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| June 4, 2002
| William A. Mayer, Editor & Publisher PipeBombNews.com
Posted on 06/04/2002 9:20:43 AM PDT by johnqueuepublic
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To: Wolfstar
I was not trying to recount an historical review of what conservatism has meant to political figures throughout history. I was trying to lay down a case for a moral viewpoint for conservatism.
Of course no one would call the Founding Fathers "conservative" when they had just thrown out the British Empire.
I would agree that Jefferson would not be considered a conservative. His Deism and support for the French Revolution did not offer any kind of a fundamental basis for a governing philosophy. The French Revolution attempted to establish a basis for society and government in an entirely atheistic manner.
To: Tuor
Unless the Senate voted to declare war and no one told me.Um...would you say Korea was not a war? How about VietNam? Desert Storm? No war ever happened in any of those places, right? Betcha we got a few vets who might have a word with you in private.
To: Exnihilo
Not as bad as yours stinks, you arrogant, mindless moron.
To: Belial
If I was as stupid as you I would refrain from posting here or anywhere else. In fact I would try to commit suicide by shooting myself with a water squirt gun full of milk. And that would barely reach up to the level of you intellect.
To: johnqueuepublic
Republicans and conservatives innately believe that their leaders will sell them out - it is almost a matter of faith. Newt Gingrich
Trent Lott
George Bush Sr.
The worry about being sold out is a very real one with a near historical track record so far. Let us hope that the actions of leading republicans over the last 10 years is an aberration rather than a rule.
To: johnqueuepublic
The part about us supporting only watered down versions of what the left wants is very true. I've never really understood the logic behind this. Every time ( with the exception of Barry Goldwater) that the conservatives have run a candidate that stands on principle he has won. The American people like our vision, and yet we refuse time and again to give it to them. If we continue to be outfoxed by the Democrats, eventually we will lose the game. We must put forward our common sense arguments, in words that the average American can understand, and we will succeed.
To: johnqueuepublic
"To destroy the Bush administration by any means and at all costs."I don't know why they try so hard. Bush is destroying his administration by himself, and with exceeding efficiency.
To: swarthyguy
Good unifying article. Now if we had a Declaration of War or even something to what Jefferson did against the Mediterranean Pirates as Ron Paul recommended against our enemies, a lot of this secondguessing, backbiting, and fingerpointing would cease. We have EXACTLY what Jefferson had against the Barbary Pirates. A congressional resolution
Here
To: Texasforever
Thanks for letting me know. I read about that Barbary Pirates campaign led a Navy Officer named Stephen Decatur, i believe. Great read.
To: Ole Okie
Well tour, far be it from me to correct you on Constitutional matters, but Article 8, section 11 calls for the Congress (not the Senate acting alone) to declare war. Well, you don't have to go far to feel free to correct me if I'm wrong on something. Having dug out and checked my copy of the Constitution, you are absolutely right: it only says that Congress is empowered to declare war, not that only the Senate has that power.
The question still remains why Congress hasn't been asked to declare war.
Tuor
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06/05/2002 6:41:30 AM PDT
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Tuor
To: hinckley buzzard
Um...would you say Korea was not a war? How about VietNam? Desert Storm? Constitutionally speaking, they were conflicts, not wars.
I'm pretty amazed that people are so resistant to following what the Constitution proscribes insofar as declaring war. Why not do it? What's so hard about getting the Congress to do its job for once?
As for vets: bring 'em on. I'm a war vet, too, and I get annoyed when the Constitution is ignored by my elected representatives. Why aren't you?
Tuor
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06/05/2002 6:50:11 AM PDT
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Tuor
To: Tuor
The question still remains why Congress hasn't been asked to declare war. Unless something changes, I doubt that Congress will ever formally declare war again.
Congress gave Bush about as free a hand as they could in the war on terrorism. A formal declaration of war against, say, Afghanistan would have been too limiting for the diffuse nature of the Islamic terrorists.
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06/05/2002 8:46:42 AM PDT
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Ole Okie
To: Ole Okie
A formal declaration of war against, say, Afghanistan would have been too limiting for the diffuse nature of the Islamic terrorists. I'm going to look up something called Letters of Marque, because they seem to be what this situation calls for. I'll post something here about it when I'm done.
Tuor
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06/05/2002 9:18:22 AM PDT
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Tuor
To: Tuor
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06/05/2002 9:30:37 AM PDT
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Tuor
To: smoking camels
Your writing style sucks too, you arrogant name calling fourth grade nipple head.
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06/07/2002 9:15:13 AM PDT
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Exnihilo
To: Exnihilo
Wow! You are so brilliant!
NOT!
To: johnqueuepublic
With all due deference, I think you are losing sight of the big picture, what if the bad guys already have nukes? You want to fool around with technicalities and find out that your precious con rights are preserved but 3 cities got nuked in the process? So true, the Constitution does little more than let criminals out on "technicalities".
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06/07/2002 3:57:23 PM PDT
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Doe Eyes
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