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To: Grampa Dave
The problem we have is separating the real data from the agenda-driven data, and I am sorry to say that there are those on the right who follow the same modus operandi.

Here is an example: the NOAA site shows compiled data in graph form that indicates the the earth is, in fact, warming. They have lots of useful information. The graphs showing warming are compiled from satellite data, thermometer readings, tree rings, and cores taken in glaciers.

On another site I found a statement that tree ring data is unreliable, citing various reasons.

Now the question is, what would the graphs look like if the tree ring data was removed? Would it show less warming or more? Does the tree ring data skew the results? Or, is tree ring data actually reliable and the critic was pushing his own agenda?

Additionally, Amelia pointed out that temperature readings are often taken at airports, which have no trees and which are surrounding by thousands and thousands of square feet of asphalt and consrete, making the temperature readings higher in both summer and winter. What if we look at the temperature data only from small towns and national forests and parks? Is the trend the same, or do the urban readings skew the data?

This is why this is so difficult to decipher. I have been cruising around the net trying to find out the truth, and there is very little information that hasn't been politicized.

Politicization of science is a very dangerous game that both sides are playiing. I disagree with it when the envirals do it, and I do not want to see conservatives do it either.

24 posted on 06/04/2002 7:57:17 AM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: Miss Marple
Here in the wine country, the official temp is at the airport. There ain't a tree for miles, and then not much grass if any in the mile around the thermometer. Our city is 7.5 miles from the airport and the airport temp is several degrees higher during the heat of the day higher than our down town temp. Even that is in the area of court houses and concrete side walks. So that temp is higher than most temps.

We live in the age of bad science. Most of it when it comes to so called enviral stuff has been advanced by Club Sierra and its little minions to seize control of our energy production and life styles while pocketing a ton of money from these controls.

31 posted on 06/04/2002 8:11:14 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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