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Bush's UCI 'warming' advisers upset with 'adapting' approach
The Orange County Register ^ | June 4, 2002 | GARY ROBBINS The Orange County Register

Posted on 06/04/2002 6:08:16 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

Edited on 04/14/2004 10:05:11 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Two UCI scientists who helped convince the White House that global warming is real and largely manmade expressed surprise Monday that the Bush administration is calling for people to adapt to the potentially severe consequences to Earth rather than deal with the causes of the problem.


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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: academic; bush; climatemodels; environment; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; grantsmanship; greenhousegases; uciadvisors
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To: rottweiller_inc
So, who is your political lover, Patty, what's his name?

I guess that you don't like all these new people of different races and sexes trusting GW more than your love political love affair with the lives of their children and the survival of their/our country?

61 posted on 06/04/2002 9:32:57 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: dixiechick2000
The Stealth President again upsets the Axis of Whining Weasels!
62 posted on 06/04/2002 9:34:23 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: Miss Marple
Right now Limbaugh is deathly scared of Thomas Oliphant. What a wuss.

I will do the duty of listeneing to the bombast and fear.

63 posted on 06/04/2002 9:37:39 AM PDT by Dane
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To: Miss Marple
I see you've read the transcript.
He's also pointing out the greenies that are happy about the report...
both of them.

I think I'll go spend some quality time with my grandchildren.

64 posted on 06/04/2002 9:38:19 AM PDT by dixiechick2000
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Bush approved massive new funding for computer power to analyze global climate last year. Eventually the American model will be the best possible.

As to adapting to climate change, well, we will have to anyway. The lawyers might be looking for a fresh "tobacco settlement," but the "adapt or die" policy will stymie that action. Everyone has driven the green, but no one is marking their ball.

65 posted on 06/04/2002 9:41:12 AM PDT by RightWhale
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To: Dane
"I will do the duty of listeneing to the bombast and fear."

Thank you for subjecting yourself to this and for sacrificing yourself for this board! ;o)

66 posted on 06/04/2002 9:41:37 AM PDT by dixiechick2000
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To: dixiechick2000
Thank you for subjecting yourself to this and for sacrificing yourself for this board! ;o)

To a caller in a sarcastic voice, he said "that he is just a lowly radio commentator".

The hubris was showing.

67 posted on 06/04/2002 9:45:13 AM PDT by Dane
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To: Dane
" The hubris was showing."

Thanks! Lately he seems to have more "hubris" than usual.

68 posted on 06/04/2002 9:50:01 AM PDT by dixiechick2000
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To: Grampa Dave
Actually I was a hard core republican until i watched Bushs' campaign and watched who he pandered to then. In short i left the reublican party in discust at what the party seems to offer as "the cream that rose to the top" and i went Libertarian. Say what you will about that party but at least they *have* core beliefs.
69 posted on 06/04/2002 9:54:44 AM PDT by rottweiller_inc
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To: dixiechick2000
Now limbaugh is backtracking a bit, saying that it is really no big deal, just gives the lefties "ammo".

Well rush it sures looks like you were the one loading the ammo with your rants yesterday.

Lenin had a term for people like you, rush, "useful idiots".

70 posted on 06/04/2002 9:57:51 AM PDT by Dane
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To: Dane
My prediction is even more amazing when you realize that Indianapolis is on tape delay, and Rush's show won't even start here for an hour yet.

No kidding, he is afraid of bow-tie Oliphant? Hahahahaha!

I just made egg salad for lunch. It was more entertaining than Limbaugh.

71 posted on 06/04/2002 10:00:06 AM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: Dane
Amen! Maybe by the end of the show, he'll backtrack all the way around to "I was wrong".

Nah.

72 posted on 06/04/2002 10:00:26 AM PDT by dixiechick2000
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To: rottweiller_inc; miss marple, hc hutch, rin tense, howlin,
Al Qaeda's Wet Dream - One Term PipeBombNews.com | June 4, 2002 | William A. Mayer, Editor & Publisher PipeBombNews.com

Posted on 6/4/02 9:20 AM Pacific by johnqueuepublic

Al Qaeda's Wet Dream - One Term

By William A. Mayer, Editor & Publisher June 4, 2002

A few weeks ago, agent provocateurs in the American press - via yet another convenient leak of an internal FBI document, provided by congressional Democrat fellow travelers - commenced the now only too familiar attack on President Bush.

Milking the opportunity, Time, Newsweek, the New York Times and the Washington Post have gone into an exquisite 3-card-Monty ruse about how “”Bush Knew” – of course absent any facts that would prove the allegation and ignoring Mr. Clinton's less than stellar stewardship of the military/intelligence apparatus charged with preventing terrorist incidents.

The disease has even affected the pointy heads at the Wall Street Journal who last week, in a fit of pique, mistakenly called for the resignation of FBI Director Robert S. Mueller III, over lapses in security, which in their wooly headed manner of thinking, somehow led to 9-11-01, despite the fact that Mueller had assumed the directorship only one week previous to the Islamic sneak attack.

This week, in a pincers operation, the New York Times - who now apparently touts its articles by feeding them first to Matt Drudge - is alleging that the Bush administration is back peddling - flip flopping - on “global warming” and by extension the Kyoto treaty. This is really Byzantine; the Times claiming that Bush is confounding them by not being as hard right as it has been alleging all along – oh well.

The Times lashes out at Bush by misrepresenting the “UN Climate Action Report 2002” [a 263 page - 5.7 MB Adobe file] - the lead-in paragraph:

“In a stark shift for the Bush administration, the United States has sent a climate report to the United Nations detailing specific and far-reaching effects that it says global warming will inflict on the American environment.”

If one takes even a few minutes to glance through the report one will see nothing of a “stark shift.”

What you will find is a thoughtful treatise on the complexities of climatology; it is no revelation nor is it capitulation that human activity has some bearing on the .6 degree C warming effect that may have been in play since 1900 – a single cow’s flatulence also has an effect – one, given the obvious spin intended by these sordid efforts disguised as journalism, possibly more salutary.

The intent here is to frame Bush as having caused 9-11 through inattention and, additionally, and having abandoned his core beliefs - thereby hoping to dishearten the conservative core of his support, a tactic which seems to be gaining traction.

The ultimate goal?

To destroy the Bush administration by any means and at all costs.

Aided in its effort to cast Bush in the worst possible light are a bevy of hot air devices, also commonly referred to as conservative radio talk show hosts [who shall here go unnamed - but you know who they are] who shifted into hyper-drive with wild crazy suppositions borne with sanctimonious scorn on the wings of their, undoubtedly superior, intellects – intellects, many of whom, having “risen” without the vexing influence of much formal education.

Lets cut to the chase.

Conservatives are on the verge of pissing away all that they have worked for, and they are doing so simply because they are reacting to headlines and stories contrived to sow internecine warfare. They are taking the bilge dished out by the DNC because, for some deep-seated pathological reason, Republicans and conservatives innately believe that their leaders will sell them out - it is almost a matter of faith. In this case they are making a preemptive strike and dropping their loyalty at the time when it is most desperately needed.

The formerly much feared conservative shock troops are now in a near autistic state of self-flagellation, which if not checked could well result in the demise of this movement and indeed this republic.

You heard me, the DEMISE of this republic – under what passes for Democrat leadership, this Nation has a less than 50-50 chance of surviving to 2010 – greenhouse gasses be damned.

Last week the Bush administration issued new surveillance guidelines allowing the FBI to monitor public Internet sites as well as attend church and political meetings to help prevent acts of terrorism.

The broadside from the ACLU was to be expected; the idiotic response on “civil liberties” grounds by the right - again driven by the lunatic element in talk radio - was not.

It was neither appreciated, called for, nor in any way justifiable.

Why now?

Ok we will tell you - the Islamic Jihad already has some version of the ATOMIC BOMB or are imminently close to having it or another similar psychologically devastating weapon of mass destruction – the actual mechanism is not that important.

That’s right, no we don’t have sources that close to the scene, but most anyone should be able to read the tea leaves.

The delivery of such a horrendous weapon, wielded against, let’s say the White House and/or Congress could conceivably throw us into a death spiral and ignite a worldwide thermonuclear exchange.

For some mysterious reason the so-called conservative movement has contracted an early onset of senile dementia - not only betraying their president in wartime but also abandoning their party when their poker hand consists of four aces.

The problem is not in the Bush administration abandoning conservative principles, the problem is that many self appointed leaders of conservatism - drawing from the Jessie Jackson/Al Sharpton playbook - are elevating their own agendas over that of this Nation.

The left would just as soon see a major commercial center nuked as lose in 2004, as long as they can lay the blame on the Republican Party.

Bottom line:

We are at war, start acting like it, those who fraudulently attack your Commander in Chief, attack your Nation, your family, and your way of life.

Suck it up, gut it out and start standing up to the left [and gently – if possible – our lost sheep on the right] to do otherwise cedes the battle to the enemy.

That is simply unacceptable.

© PipeBombNews.com, all rights reserved.

73 posted on 06/04/2002 10:01:24 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: Dane
I always get my science information from radio talk show hosts. They are so much smarter than average people, not to memntion scientists.
74 posted on 06/04/2002 10:01:34 AM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: Grampa Dave;Miss Marple;Dane
Check out Drudge's headline!
I'm off to have lunch with my 4 year old grandaughter.
Please ping me if anything interesting happens. Thanks!
75 posted on 06/04/2002 10:08:11 AM PDT by dixiechick2000
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To: Still Using Air
Oh, wait, according to history, it's fallen before...and yet....we're all still here to listen to another round of this bunk science rhetoric....imagine that.

Yeah---we ran out of fossil fuel about twenty years ago, and the earth became too populated to feed itself about ten years ago and we all starved to death. You didn't know that? Geez. Where have you been?

76 posted on 06/04/2002 10:15:17 AM PDT by gg188
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To: Dane
Klimball has sprayed the Bravo Sierra at GW, and a 200 mph headwind has turned it right back on him.

It is amazing what Klimball has done in 2002. He has the whacko third party coresiders (code I don't like new people claiming to be conservatives, particuliar ______________ fill in the blanks) on his side. He used to call them kooks, now they are his buddies.

In the meantime he has chased away the non kooks, and now we are calling him a kook as he and the rest of the KKKKKKers, the Klassless Klowns are all in bed with the GW haters. It is a funny sight to behold.

When he carried the bucket of you know what that the NY Slimes put out yesterday and tried to throw it on GW into that 200 mph headwind, he found himself on the real stinky and slimey end. We will start to hear about sponsors bailing on him. They pay for ads to sell more of their products not for bashing the president to appeal to the 1% kook factor.

Good, he and Savage can battle over the third party kooks. They deserve each other! Make that Kavage.

77 posted on 06/04/2002 10:20:03 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: gg188
Ooops! I must be dead and haven't realized it yet...maybe in limbo, someone please show me the way to the light... ;)
78 posted on 06/04/2002 10:24:49 AM PDT by Still Using Air
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To: dixiechick2000
"I read the report put out by the bureaucracy," Bush said dismissively Tuesday when asked about the EPA report

It's pretty sad, though, how there's a bureaucracy that just has a life of its own, independent of the government we ELECT! That our President points out the truth---implicity stating sorta that, hey, we should take it with a grain of salt, it's just the bureaucracy, entrenched, ensconced in civil service after 60-70 years of basically socialist government, and no administration we elect can just come in and sweep them out---that Bush really has no control over the bureaucracy issuing reports that are diametrically counter to what THE PEOPLE have VOTED their will to be. So much for democracy, which when it suits the LEFT is valued above all else---valued above all other rights, yet when it DOESN'T suit them, they totally IGNORE it!

79 posted on 06/04/2002 10:28:02 AM PDT by gg188
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To: Still Using Air
Ooops! I must be dead and haven't realized it yet...maybe in limbo, someone please show me the way to the light... ;)

Go back and read Paul Erlich books, Jimmy Carter speeches, and the predictions of the Club Of Rome, all circa mid--to-late-1970's. According to them, life as we know it would cease to exist by 1990 if we did not revert to lifestyles and consumption rates of, say, 1890 or so.

Fortunately, the only people who believed them were the Unabomber, Algore and a few others.

Yet, RONALD REAGAN is called a REACTIONARY!!! Go figure. I always tell these boneheaded sixties hippie freaks that Reagan was the most progressive, radical politician of the age. Everything the LEFT believes is from the 19th century; everything the RIGHT believes involves GROWTH and forward-thinking optimism. So exactly WHOSE bridge is going to WHICH century, I ask them?

80 posted on 06/04/2002 10:36:03 AM PDT by gg188
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