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To: axxmann
Again, you hold both sides morally equivalent. Let me repeat myself, one side wants to live in peace, the Arabs want Israel gone...THEY ARE NOT MORALLY EQUIVALENT!

Please explain to me why, if the Israelis only want peace, they continue to support Israeli settlers on Palestinian territory? Even though this violates a treaty they signed with Arafat in 1967.

Also how does killing civilians, destroying houses, schools, hospitals, Police stations and electricity/water supply infrastructre, help stop future terrorism?

By the way I am not an antisemite. I have Jewish friends (not Israelis) and they are actually very critical of the methods use by Israel to defend itself.

40 posted on 06/03/2002 4:50:06 PM PDT by David Hunter
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41 posted on 06/03/2002 4:51:56 PM PDT by Terriergal
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To: David Hunter
if the Israelis only want peace, they continue to support Israeli settlers on Palestinian territory?

1.2 million Arabs live in Israel. Why should Palestine be 100% Jew-free?

Even though this violates a treaty they signed with Arafat in 1967.

You are hallucinating. There was no such treaty.

45 posted on 06/03/2002 5:02:37 PM PDT by Alouette
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To: David Hunter
Please explain to me why, if the Israelis only want peace, they continue to support Israeli settlers on Palestinian territory? Even though this violates a treaty they signed with Arafat in 1967.

1. There was no treaty in 1967.
2. Considering they are negotiating borders, isn't it premature to talk about Palestinian terriroty?
The Arabs consider Jews retuirning to the Jewish quarter of Old Jerusalem to be settlers!
Besides, the Arabs are also building new communities. Whence the double standard.

Also how does killing civilians, destroying houses, schools, hospitals, Police stations and electricity/water supply infrastructre, help stop future terrorism?

Ask the Bush administration about Afghanistan!
As to the specific points, the PA police commited terrist acts and hid other terrorists from teh Israelis.
The destruction of infrastructure was unfortunate, but t he terrorists purposely hid among civilians in order to maximize collatoral damage.

By the way I am not an antisemite. I have Jewish friends (not Israelis) and they are actually very critical of the methods use by Israel to defend itself.
I suppose these American Jews opposed bombing Afghanistan?

Ron
PS. You wouldn't happen to be the David Hunter who went to Columbia B-school 2 years ago?

52 posted on 06/03/2002 5:44:20 PM PDT by rmlew
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To: David Hunter
Please explain to me why, if the Israelis only want peace, they continue to support Israeli settlers on Palestinian territory? Even though this violates a treaty they signed with Arafat in 1967.

First of all, Mr. Hunter....it was never Palestinian territory in the first place...it's always belonged to Israel...during the time when our friend Billy The Loon Clintoooon, brokered the peace process in 93, he brought back Mr. (really Egyptian) Arafat from exile in Tunisa...after Arafat was kicked out of almost every country he tried to reside in because he reeked havoc and destruction everywhere he went...including his own country of Egypt....

Those settlements have been there for years and years...and they've taken that wasted land and created neighborhoods, schools, houses of worship, amongst other things....That land was always Israeli until the wonderful brokered "Peace" Process that hasn't given Israel one iota of peace....

Tell your Jewish friends...they should read up on Israel, and stop being such little wimps...what if someone came into their neighborhoods everyday, and blew up their family and friends....Tell them not to be so HORRIFIED, poor dears...

60 posted on 06/03/2002 6:54:35 PM PDT by KLT
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To: David Hunter
Please explain to me why, if the Israelis only want peace, they continue to support Israeli settlers on Palestinian territory?

Since there is no such thing as "Palestinian territory" (Israel won those lands in a defensive war), why shouldn't their citizens set up communities on it? And why can't the Arabs live in peace with their Jewish neighbors?

Even though this violates a treaty they signed with Arafat in 1967.

What treaty did they sign with Arafat in 1967 when they were forbidden by law with even talking to this mass murderer?

Also how does killing civilians, destroying houses, schools, hospitals, Police stations and electricity/water supply infrastructre, help stop future terrorism?

It teaches these so-called "civilians" (in reality, these people are supporters of terrorists which hardly makes them "civilians") that terrorism will only bring destruction upon themselves. You see, when Rabin and Peres were in charge, Arabs could murder Jews without any sort of consequence for their action. From that they learned to escalate the violence. The retaliatory strikes (which pale in comparison to what the US did in Afghanistan) hope to teach them differently.

By the way I am not an antisemite. I have Jewish friends (not Israelis) and they are actually very critical of the methods use by Israel to defend itself.

You will have to define what you consider an anti-Semite to be. From my perspective, your "Jewish friends" have a lot to learn.

66 posted on 06/03/2002 7:52:33 PM PDT by BenF
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To: David Hunter
First of all, I highly doubt the Isrealies signed any treaties with Arafat in '67 because he was not in charge of the PLO and they were still Trans-Jordanian citizens until the war of '67. That's when the "Palistinians" were born.

As for these tactics, if it was Britian, France or America who had to deal with this kind of BS, the whole place would have been leveled a long time ago. As a matter of fact, Jenin had been destroyed by the British, leveled, in response to a terrorist attack by Arabs. Easy to talk when you're not getting daily bombers killing your children.

81 posted on 06/04/2002 12:56:09 AM PDT by Stavka2
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To: David Hunter
Please explain to me why, if the Israelis only want peace, they continue to support Israeli settlers on Palestinian territory? Even though this violates a treaty they signed with Arafat in 1967.

????????????????

There's nothing illegal about the settlements, though Israel has agreed to negotiate their future with Arafat, in Oslo in 93 not 67.

87 posted on 06/04/2002 6:43:16 AM PDT by SJackson
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