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To: Mudboy Slim;scholar;sultan88
"I agree wholeheartedly; however, how will we stop the bleeding in the Fall of '04 if all we have to defend is record Federal expansion?"

We stop the bleeding with our vote.
Our vote is based on our support of the man & our party.
Our support is based upon our faith.
Our faith is based upon what it is we KNOW this POTUS walked into -- is having to deal with BEFORE he's able to be the conservative we all want to see, right now.
What we know this POTUS is having to deal with is based upon what it is we've WITNESSED with our own two eyes; ie, the CORRUPTION, the Liberal-Socialist infestation of our Lamestream, academics, & every other thread of the socail fabric we wrap ourselves in.

This is not something reversed overnight & you simply must -- sooner or later -- come to understand the full magnitude of what's happening, here.
Above all else?
STOP listening to that damnedable Lamestream; please?

"We're supposed to be the Party of limited Federal Guv'ment, but Dubyuh's seemingly ready to sign off on every spending boondoggle that comes down the pike!! Sure, I like Dubyuh and still somehow believe he's innately conservative, but his willingness to buy into the Left's agenda doesn't warrant the 90% approval rating he's getting from the GOP these days."

Speaking ONLY for myself, & keeping in mind I do not like the *situation* any more than you [do]?
I will reiterate my POV for you one more time:
"The man has 4 years to show us what he's got; period. MY next vote will be based on the sum of the (his) parts; &, not some instantaneous value."

"It's high time a few more of our voices on the Right were heard in opposition to this approach before it's too late to change course."

The Leftist ghouls are just waiting for such a move, my friend.
In fact?
They're banking on it coming sooner rather than later, more rather than less & they're banking on the dissention coming from within the conservative Right, itself.
Why, they're waiting like hungry dogs that'd rip off bits & pieces of the flesh we tear from one another & they'll use that for the grist of, tomorrow's story.
As for it ever being, "too late" for *anything*?
It's never too late; rather, & more often than not?
It comes down to a question of timing.

"The Right will never win a spending contest with the Left and to consider even trying is pure folly on our part, IMHO."

*My* opin, too & Amen to that!

"...and I certainly wouldn't believe the NY Slimes as far as I could throw their fat-assed editorial board."

Good.
I'm relieved to know your thought process will NOT be influenced by the pigs at that insideously Liberal-Socialist sewer; ever.
The NYSlimes is only but-one, too; they're are others, of course.
Others who're worthy of shunning & the ruination which hopefully results from the social & financial isolation they so richly deserve & have earned.

"Still, the concerns Rush and other conservatives are raising about Dubyuh's willingness to abandon conservative principles in favor of ethereal mid-term polling popularity need proper airing and consideration."

Sure; by the other side.
I need no such, "airing."
I've faith, you see; &, I'm not afraid to discover I was wrong about any thing or person, either.
That, is my *secret* weapon. {g}

"The Fall's campaign should be based on telling the American people how the GOP's winning back the Senate and increasing our lead in the House will reign in the Federal Leviathan and return us to a form of Federal government more in keeping of that which our Founding Father's envisioned when they penned the Constitution."

9 outa 10 of my neighbors -- upper-middle class, educated people -- cannot spell the word, "Constitution"; &, nevermind their knowing what the hell's in it.
In fact?
MANY of their businesses depend, in some way, on federal dollars.
So?
Go screaming those dollars are going to be, overnight, cut off?
We'll get ourselves saddled with another iteration of Clintigula - Sink Emporer the 1st.
~Fact.

"Otherwise, I fear Dubyuh and the GOP will learn all too late that the enthusiasm of the Right's base will have been dampened irreparably come November '02 and '04.
That would be an unforgivable shame..."

Unforgivable but fickle, Mud; &, nothing that cannot or will not be reversed.
When the timing is right.

...have patience, will you?

1,314 posted on 06/05/2002 8:53:39 AM PDT by Landru
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To: Landru
Well, I would have thought that all that could be said on this thread had been said.

I was wrong. I wish you had gotten here 1,000 posts ago. :-)

1,315 posted on 06/05/2002 8:54:48 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: spiff;sentryoveramerica
See #1314 in response to your genuine, very real concerns as expressed on the other thread.

All this stuff's connected, people.
And it's all based on a lot of doubts fostered over nearly a decade's time.
Those doubts were not the result or workings of us on the Right.
Those doubts were the result of the other guys being in power.
Remember?

This POTUS is a man.
He's not a magician, or some kind of onipotent God who may change the course of a rivers with the mere wave of a hand.
Even if he could?
Wouldn't the physical process of it all take some time anyway; &, not be an *instantaneous* event?

...people, cultures, & governments can be a hell of a lot harder to change than mere rivers, my friend.

1,317 posted on 06/05/2002 9:09:05 AM PDT by Landru
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To: Landru
...have patience, will you?

Your post #1413 is really good. I wish I had patience. I wish I had it *now*.

1,319 posted on 06/05/2002 9:38:37 AM PDT by sultan88
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