RINO Jim Kolbe to face CONSERVATIVE Challenger in Arizona Primaries - Jim Behnke Needs FReeper Help!

Jim Behnke for Congress ^ | 6/3/2002 | Jim Behnke for Congress

[Spiff]

I agree with the border issues. I have family in Cochise County. It is a problem big time! The illegals have more rights than the people who own property. My concern is losing the House to the RATS in the mid-term election. Even if we have a RINO who is a "place holder", the GOP can control committees. This is, in my opinion, better than "voting ones conscience", getting a RAT elected, and losing the entire H of R.

Nobody intends to lose this race to the RATs. I don't think that anyone can predict the outcome of this race given the new district boundaries and the hot border issue. I don't think Behnke would be making this attempt if he didn't think he could win. Read the other stuff I've posted to see that Behnke can win this thing. Please, give him a chance.

[wjcsux]

I like the good guys too. We have several that are running here in NM. The biggest threat is Bill Richardson running for governor. He is trying to set himself up to make a run for Domenici's seat when he retires in 08.

[Spiff]

I like the good guys too. We have several that are running here in NM. The biggest threat is Bill Richardson running for governor. He is trying to set himself up to make a run for Domenici's seat when he retires in 08.

I wish the "good guys" luck.

Can I get you to let your family in Cochise County know about Jim Behnke and to give him a fair chance? Can you do that?

[wjcsux]

Sure, I will be happy to.

[Spiff]

Um, I hate to point this out, but what precisely do you accomplish if the only thing that actually occurs is the election of someone who not only votes the way you hate, more often, but is loyal to the leadership of the other party? Seems like a Pyrrhic victory to me.

You're making the false assumption that Behnke can't win against the Democrat candidate. I submit that he can win.

My point was that even if he were to somehow lose against the Democrat candidate, it wouldn't make much difference given the extreme RINO nature of Kolbe. About 5 years ago I took a sampling of congressional votes on bills that expanded government and raised taxes. I compared Kolbe's votes on those bills to the Republicans and the Democrats in Congress. I found that he voted more liberally - for bigger government and higher taxes - that 98% of the Republicans. He also voted more liberally than 65% of the Democrats. So, numerically, you have a better chance of getting a Democrat who votes less liberally - for smaller government and lower taxes - than Kolbe if a Democrat were to get elected.

I'm working on doing the same thing for the last year to prove my point once again. Kolbe is a RINO who consistently votes for bigger government and higher taxes - even more often than most Democrats - and therefore he needs to go.

[Spiff]

Further revising and extending my remarks. I found 2 more opportunities for Kolbe to vote against this atrocity:

How can you support a man that, by my count, has had 6 opportunities to vote for a ban on the atrocity of Partial Birth Abortion - and he's voted 6 times against the ban. One can debate about a supposed woman's right to choose and such, but Partial Birth Abortion is a whole different thing. No one in their right mind could excuse or condone such a barbaric act. Yet, Kolbe did on 6 occasions:

November 1995 - One of only 15 Republicans to vote AGAINST banning Partial Birth Abortion.

March 1996 - One of only 15 Republicans to vote AGAINST banning Partial Birth Abortion.

March 1997 - One of only 8 Republicans to vote AGAINST banning Partial Birth Abortion.

October 1997 - One of only 8 Republicans to vote AGAINST banning Partial Birth Abortion.

July 1998 - One of only 8 Republicans to vote AGAINST banning Partial Birth Abortion.

April 2000 - One of only 8 Republicans to vote AGAINST banning Partial Birth Abortion.

This is what Jim Kolbe chose to vote for:

[Spiff]

It was you that asserted he was a "decent" person. I was offering evidence against your assertion.

I'm sorry. It was wjcsux that asserted that Kolbe was a "decent" person. I was offering evidence against wjcsux's assertion.

So, are you still a Kolbe supporter?

[Spiff]

Most of the precinct committeemen I know realize this and are supporting him, as am I.

Maybe you Tucson residents aren't being overrun by the invasion occuring from Mexico. Cochise County sure is - its border with Mexico is one of the nation's primary breaches through which the invaders are pouring. I would bet you've never had a dozen dangerous looking illegal aliens come down your street while you're at work and your wife (or husband) is in the yard and your kids are out riding their bikes. Maybe, in the comfort of your city and suburbs, the invasion doesn't bother you despite the number of illegal border violators that are coming in from Middle Eastern countries for purposes upon which you and I can only surmise post 9/11.

Rep. Jim Kolbe is soft on this invasion. His voting record and statements demonstrate this. I've attended many Town Hall meetings in which Cochise County residents call for his support in stopping the invasion from Mexico. He repeatedly insists that he does not want to "militarize" the border and then he start his tap dance of what he's doing in Congress about the problem.

Well, what is he doing in Congress about the invasion?

Let's look at his most recent votes on the issue:

March 2002 - RINO Kolbe voted with 182 Democrats (almost all of them) and against 123 Republicans for the Section 245(i) Amnesty for Illegal Aliens. This action excused the criminal status of hundreds of thousands (possibly up to 2 million) of illegal aliens in this country. It rewarded them for their illegal border crossing and it even excused them from the normal U.S. Embassy security screening in their home countries to become American citizens. Don't you think this rewarding if illegal border crossers is going to encourage more people to violate our borders and pour into our country illegally? Isn't this going to make the problem worse?

September 2002 - After the September 11th attacks, one of the most obvious, necessary actions that needed to be taken was to secure our borders. RINO Kolbe voted against 191 Republicans and with 147 Democrats against an Amendment to HR2586 which would have authorized the Attorney General and the Secretary of the Treasury to request that members of the Armed Forces assist the INS with border control duties. This is not the first time that Kolbe voted with the Democrats to keep the military from protecting our borders - see May 2000.

May 2000 - RINO Kolbe voted against 184 Republicans and with 151 Democrats against an amendment to HR4205 which would have authorized the Secretary of Defense to assign, under certain circumstances, members of the Armed Forces to assist the INS with border control duties.

He talks a good game on this issue, but you have to keep watching his hands while is mouth is running. Look at what he is actually doing, not what he is saying. And what he is doing is voting against anything that would properly secure our border from the invasion that is occuring.

So, on immigration and border issues, a couple of the most important issues for this district and this nation right now, do you still support Jim Kolbe?

[Spiff]

Not September 2002, I meant September 2001 on the amendment that Kolbe voted against.

[FrogMom]

Your post is so venomous toward Kolbe, it's hard to concentrate on the political issues when the bile is spewing.

Suggest that you aren't reading the hard facts he's citing. Read it ALL.

[FrogMom]

Thanks for the ping, I'll look Mr. Behnke over.

As an aside, the first time I met Kolbe, I was new to Cochise County and attended one of his town-hall meetings. Since I'd only been in Arizona about 3 weeks, I didn't know anything about him.

After his opening comments, I turned to my Mother and asked, "What party is he from?" Neither of us knew and neither of us could tell by listening to him.

[Luke21]

Hey, cool. I live on the east side of Kolb Road itself and so does my brother.

[Spiff]

Oh really? Kolbe has a lifetime ACU rating of 75

I hate to bring this up so late in the game, but I've had too many people point to an ACU rating of 75 or so like that was something good.

If we applied the grading scale they used when I went to school, Kolbe's lifetime rating of 75 would be a D+, his rating of 68 for 1999 would be a D-, and his rating of 60 for 2000 would be an F. This trend should also make obvious his rapid slide to the left and his unacceptability as a Republican candidate.

An F. A failure as a conservative. You compare against other representatives with lower scores. But you're just comparing one failure to another failure. We should not reward failure.

[Spiff]

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