[parsifal]

"If the bad guys can use our laws to kill us, "

This happens all the time and well before 9-11. For example, the "bad guys" use the second amendment to buy guns. Then they rob stores, banks, and shoot people. The answer isn't to revoke the second amendment, but to enforce the laws and punish the criminals. Similarly, the exercise of privacy rights may result in some additional terrorism. I am willing to run that risk, because I think the loss of our rights is a far more serious problem than the terrorists killing some of us.

Remember how "safe" the Germans felt once Hitler got into power and took away all their rights so that he could protect them better? parsy the far-sighted.

[c21sac]

I absolutely agree with both of you.

My only point is that to make such restrictive laws that apply to terrorist is very dangerous. I don't feel that terrorist have any rights such as we do, and for them to make a mochary of our system and to kill our people is more than I can stand

I didn't mean to sound like I was advocating more goverment control,coming from commie California I think both of you understand.

[swarthyguy]

, because I think the loss of our rights is a far more serious problem than the terrorists killing some of us. Ask the relatives of the Pentagon employees about our 'so called loss of rights'. Where are the roadblocks, the rousting of mosques, the wholesale detention of islamic radicals? Rights only mean a damn if you're alive. If Moussaoui was not enough of a probable cause to search his computer, wow! The terrorists in America haven't hit us again because they can't get off the floor because they're laughing too much.

[Terriergal]

For example, the "bad guys" use the second amendment to buy guns.

Exactly my point.. these 'bad guys' are non citizens. They shouldn't have the same rights as citizens.