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I've always liked you both, which is why I rarely engage either of you on these debates. Once I like someone their personal feelings and political leanings take a backseat to their worthiness as people.

I guess my only message is this. We're not all half-assed former supporters who are one issues voters or fair weather friends.

Some of us were hard core Bush supporters. I worked on Jebs campaign as a memeber of the Broward Republican Party and as a member of the Broward Young Repubicans. I, along with other freepers on this forum attended many protests during the attempted Gore election takeover. One guy I know has been a GOP delegate for years feels the same way many of us do.

We're not all fakes, or disruptors, or one-issue voters. Many of us are truly disgusted at being betrayed on issue after issue after issue. We think the huge spending, all of the newly created bureaucracies, the unconstitutional non-vetoes, the refusal to secure our borders and the breaking of campaing promises to be drastically opposed to our deeply held beliefs on where this country should be going.

For those of us who were hoping to roll back big government, or at least make a half-assed attempt at slowing it down, this admin has been a disappointment. I would dare say even a disaster.

I say let's agree that we're not going to agree on this. I'm too the point where I just want to watch the party burn and let the chips fall where they may.

The party of Reagan and the Contract with America has learned how to abuse our founding documents and spend our money for their own gain as good as any democrat, and some of us are just NOT going to support them anymore.

I've been voting for the lesser of two evils for years and I've decided I'll won't ever do that again. From now on I vote in the affirmative or stay home.

That doesn't mean we can't be friends (unless you're miss marple who hates the ground I trod upon).

I don't agree with your POA, but you are being honest where you are coming from and why you feel that way.

I say give us the Senate for two years and then see if you still feel the way you do in Nov 2004.

The big spending came in after Jeffords came out of his closet. Now the rats with the Hilldebeast are bragging about the great spending they did, now they want to take away our tax cuts spend more.

Triple A, I believe that's the most I've ever read from you! Thank you for stating your position clearly and honestly. As I said before, we may not agree on a lot of things, but an honest response is always respected and appreciated. Keep a watchful eye on those 'suspects' in GA! My best.

:)RWP

"We're not all fakes, or disruptors, or one-issue voters. Many of us are truly disgusted at being betrayed on issue after issue after issue. We think the huge spending, all of the newly created bureaucracies, the unconstitutional non-vetoes, the refusal to secure our borders and the breaking of campaing promises to be drastically opposed to our deeply held beliefs on where this country should be going."

The correct one word definition of what you've listed comes down to "Realism". It would have been great if the Republican Leadership had understood what we required.

IMO, this administration has a lot in commom with Nixon's--sans the corruption (economically liberal on the home front, realistic on the foreign front).

"I guess my only message is this. We're not all half-assed former supporters who are one issues voters or fair weather friends. Some of us were hard core Bush supporters. I worked on Jebs campaign as a memeber of the Broward Republican Party and as a member of the Broward Young Repubicans. I, along with other freepers on this forum attended many protests during the attempted Gore election takeover. One guy I know has been a GOP delegate for years feels the same way many of us do. We're not all fakes, or disruptors, or one-issue voters. Many of us are truly disgusted at being betrayed on issue after issue after issue. We think the huge spending, all of the newly created bureaucracies, the unconstitutional non-vetoes, the refusal to secure our borders and the breaking of campaing promises to be drastically opposed to our deeply held beliefs on where this country should be going."

Well said. I have learned to stay silent(mostly) on these threads, as emotions tend to run a little high, but what you wrote was very well written and exactly the way I see Bush.

I didn't expect him to be perfect, but his promises to limit gov't growth and spending during his campaign have turned into a parody of the typical Politician. A complete disconnect between what is promised and what is delivered. Its very disappointing.